Ideas - *controversial*

[Pyroka]

why does this sound like a tune ive heard before... regardless, disagree with most except the userbar idea would be gd i think so yeah gd one for that.

[dogboy123]

Just to add to the avatar thing. If I was new on a forum (like i did on hf) I liked making myself look like established on the forum. Having a tiny av, and some horrible bronze stars doesn't really let you fit in.

[AgnesIO]

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Before you read I know some of these are controversial. They're welcome to adjustments. Just saying yes/no isn't really useful. If you don't think we need them then explain why. It's a fact that HxF is no longer the most active Habbo Forum but I think it so easily could be as Habbox is easily the biggest and most influential fansite across Habbo. Even foreign hotels don't have a fansite like this.

It's mainly based around a problem that has been highlighted a good eight or so months ago now and has never really been directly combated effectively, membership retention. We have so many people signing up and then not posting or staying active for long. It has been put down to attitudes of older members, I don't buy this whatsoever. In no way is this forum more exclusive than others that do well.

Put the blab in spoiler, just why I made this thread etc

Keeping members at HxF
I think the only reason they don't stay is because it's so hard to become established on here. I look at the members who have posted recently who don't have really high post counts or a join date from years ago and they're mostly users who have come back from a ban.

Everything on this forum is putting new people off:

- Avatars
- Arcade
- Reputation
- Join Date
- Post count
- User rank

Avatars
Sure OK, they're progressive and it could be argued it's an incentive to post and be active to try and get a bigger avatar. In reality, I don't think that's the case. Small avatars look awful, I can't have an avatar that looks good which is annoying but I can't because the size makes them look ridiculous. I don't see why all users can't have the simple 150x150. People aren't going to stop buying donator or become less active because of an avatar.

What would be the point in ANY user ranks if there was no reason to want to post? People wouldn't post so much on the forum if here were no incentives.

Arcade
Again, why can't this just be open to all users... I feel it would benefit the forum more. If new users, came on, enjoyed the arcade and were given full access maybe they'd come back again just to use the arcade and even if they make 5 or so posts each time they come on it's still a help. I also think the arcade scores should be wiped, make it more active.

People don't join forums to play at the arcade. If they do then they are no use to Habbox what so ever. The arcade is just a little treat users get for being on the forum and staying active. Also you clearly don't know this, but the arcade scores were wiped one or to months ago?

Reputation
It's really hard to move up the reputation ladder. It's unlikely any other 'new' user would get that much. I think this should either be scrapped entirely. Reputation doesn't make people stay, or at least it shouldn't but it defo puts people off.

The point in reputation is you BUILD it. Check u reputation in the dictionary.

Join Date
Thinking behind this is maybe if there wasn't proof they were a new user, they wouldn't feel so new. It's not important at all and I don't think this should be displayed when you post. Or at least have the option, if possible for it not to be displayed on the forum.

I think I will just ignore this..

Post count
Seeing as the forum has been open so long some people have mammoth post counts. Again, I think if possible people should be allowed to make it so it doesn't display. Maybe even some of the more active users would do it to not look as addicted.

Oh I see what you mean here. When I was knew when I saw I only made 1 post I wanted to leave. It was so hurtful.

User Rank
The bronze stars are disgusting. Can't these just be replaced with userbars "new user" "loyal member" "legendary". Whatever. I just hate the star system and I think having a horrid star under your name would put you off the forum.
A lot of these are related to the fact the forum is so old. People who are new feel intimidated by the older members, even if they aren't threatening. If people were able to hide there own which are insignificant in comparison then maybe they'd be more inclined to post.

Intimidated? Is this a joke? Yet you want userbars that say NEW USER. That surely makes you look newer than a few bronze stars?

Anyway, I know these are controversial and I'd be surprised if anyone actually agreed but I think the systems we have at the moment although they work fine they put new members off the forum. If these were changed, I genuinely believe we could attract new people and make them stay. With the merge coming more people will be visiting and if we can make them stay, you'll be laughing!

Check the bold

[Tintinnabulate]

Habbox needs to start installing modifications. CHF do it and I dont see it getting hacked regularly. Habbox need to stop worrying. I would be happy to suggest some amazing modifications which would make the forum more enjoyable.

There is like 190 users online, yet I only see the same 5-10 people post in Spam.

[Pyroka]

Habbox needs to start installing modifications. CHF do it and I dont see it getting hacked regularly. Habbox need to stop worrying. I would be happy to suggest some amazing modifications which would make the forum more enjoyable.

There is like 190 users online, yet I only see the same 5-10 people post in Spam.

dnt mean to be rude spesh since i see sexy calum viewing this thread but chf does get hacked.... and i cant remember the last time hxf got hacked since omg idk probs 3-4 yrs?? they need to start convertin guests into users

mebbe a quicker sign up system but then thats vbulletin so yknow

[hah]

What would be the point in ANY user ranks if there was no reason to want to post? People wouldn't post so much on the forum if here were no incentives.

People don't join forums to play at the arcade. If they do then they are no use to Habbox what so ever. The arcade is just a little treat users get for being on the forum and staying active. Also you clearly don't know this, but the arcade scores were wiped one or to months ago?

A bit of a contradiction there :S
People who look for incentives to posts are no use either :S


And it seems you dont either, they were wiped in dec

[AgnesIO]

A bit of a contradiction there :S


And it seems you dont either, they were wiped in dec

I thought they were wiped when vB 4.0 was brought in?

And no Graham.. People DON'T join the forum to play the arcade, HOWEVER after you have been loyal to the forum incentives are normally required to keep members here.

And let's be honest, the longer the list - whatever the list may be - the more people will want to have more posts.

[hah]

I dont no any users who look for things for posting lol
could you name some

[immense]

Check the bold

Probably the worst post throughout the entire thread. The title is called controversial, the ideas were bound to be. It also says they're welcome for adjustments. Then you strut in here like you're a descendent of Immenseman. Your attitude to this and therefore your feedback is very tedious. Up until now every member, including 3 of the 4 General Management have replied and agreed to certain elements, altered others and believed that others are fine as they are. As it happens, I agree with the entirety of them and I'd put my life on the line that these would ease newer member's worries. They're not perfect, that has been acknowledged but by belittling a new member like that is ridiculous. No wonder they won't want to stay when people like you are pig ignorant. Talking about jokes like you mentioned, I think the joke is firmly back with you.

Anyway, I agree with all of these points as I've already mentioned. The Avatar's are ridiculous, I can't even use one because it's so horrendously small. All forums have 150x150, some even bigger. I really think this, the arcade and user ranks needs to change the most. Posting and reputation would help but they're not as big as the others and they would anger the old members, only to a certain extent. Anyway, glad that people have been constructive in here and +REP to the original poster who has come up with some ideas I hope to see implemented soon such as:

+ Bigger Avatars
+ Free access to arcade for all members
+ Revamp of user rank system

[AgnesIO]

I dont no any users who look for things for posting lol
could you name some

Well let me start by questioning:

If you posted 10,000 times and suddenly every member on the forum had all the standard bronze star feature, could you HONESTLY tell me there would not be an upror, because people get such a lame amount of features?

No need to answer that.

EDIT:

Lorren isn't ******* new..
And last time you did that 'IMMENSEMAN'S OPINIONS ON YOU' crap you said you hated how I posted controversial ideas.

I also don't understand where this thouht came from that new members brick it when they sign u? It it nonsense, I certainly didn't when I signed up - there never has and never will be a reason to be scared to sign up to forum, and the last thing on earth anyone could possibly worry about when they first sign up is that they can't have a big avatar?