Muslim protesters brand war heroes 'murderers' as homecoming parade turns violent

[alexxxxx]

so what. theyre allowed their own opinion. youre not advocating we throw certain groups out because they have different views than the majority are you?

and laughing at throwing sausages at them? that's as offensive, if not more as it is an attack, as the original outburst.

[Jordy]

so what. theyre allowed their own opinion. youre not advocating we throw certain groups out because they have different views than the majority are you?

and laughing at throwing sausages at them? that's as offensive, if not more as it is an attack, as the original outburst.

I'm not so sure free speech permits you to walk round calling people murderers. If they were to call Tony Blair a murderer though I wouldn't have an issue, it's the politicians who should be blamed not the armed forces.

[alexxxxx]

I'm not so sure free speech permits you to walk round calling people murderers. If they were to call Tony Blair a murderer though I wouldn't have an issue, it's the politicians who should be blamed not the armed forces.

you aren't forced to join the armed forces. you have to accept that if you go into the armed forces you are in effect, part of the system and subscribing to it.

[Jordy]

you aren't forced to join the armed forces. you have to accept that if you go into the armed forces you are in effect, part of the system and subscribing to it.

Very true but I'm still not convinced you can go round accusing people of murder.

[alexxxxx]

Very true but I'm still not convinced you can go round accusing people of murder.

well it's obviously not a very nice thing to say. and they probably didn't murder anyone in the legal sense of the word. calling a large group of people murderers without making any specific allegations probably wouldn't warrant being illegal.

[Bun]

******* hypocrotical ******s

[BeanEgg]

Some of us are not helping anything, are we? Protecting freedoms?
http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/
http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/...eature-stories

Let's try to protect theirs in this country first then ours.

Do people still not understand that NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE EXTREMISTS? Seriously, how pathetic can one be. There are over 53 Islamic countries, only Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia are the only known countries where there are extremists. - Most Muslims are ashamed of the minority.

[powerlifter]

You don't quite get it do you... obviously we're not wanted there by the extremists, if we weren't there then they would thrive and be able to make weapons, bombs, etc. which would be a nightmare - imagine fighting the Taliban in 10 years time when they have planes and nuclear bombs? It's better to take them out while they're still using out of date weapons, not new state of the art stuff.

The people of Afghanistan don't want the Taliban in power... maybe some do, but not all. The Taliban terrorise the people, that's really gonna win them brownie points with the locals. :rolleyes:

I respect your relative for being in the armed forces but I imagine he doesn't know the goings on of every operation. You keep saying 'they don't want us to be there', yes THEY DO! They do want us there, to eradicate the Taliban and to restore peace. If we leave then the Government will be overthrown, the Taliban would come back into power and they would then be able to create mass terrorism with planes, bombs, etc. as I have said.

I dnt normally read these forums but i stumbled upon this...

lemme just clarify something for you , since when do america actually give a *Removed* what happens in other countries were there is no benefit too them sudan civil war , somalia civil war , lebanese revolution thousands of people died and were opressed they really couldn't care less but ooo iraq , afganistan and soon too be iran hmm lemme see wot they have in common hmm OIL!

Trust me the people there want you out hence the increased the terroist activity , of course that dosnt justify blowing urself up but if there french were occupying our lands under false pretences of course you would want them out , your only outlet too how those people feel are the media which lets face it can be manipulated read below..

We were ordered and instructed on how too feel about the wars we have partaken in e.g. iraq o sadam hussain threat too our lives he is the new nazi.. has weapons when he repeatdly said in various interviews he hadn't and they could check however of course they weren't televised , GUESS WHAT NO WEAPONS! but hey we freed iraq from opression right , GUESS WHAT WAY MORE PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND OPPRESSED WITH OUR current STAY IN IRAQ THAN UNDER SADAM HUSSAINS REGIME. even the soldiers dnno wot they r doing there lol

Another thing all nuclear weapons heads are under the main power houses of europe u know the usual suspects AMERICA , RUSSIA so there is no chance of any1 else getting em mite be able too get hands on a few machine guns but hey 20 of our lives vs millions of theres?

U really beleive in international freedom the prison of ghazi which has held thousands of people hostage for many years now , nothing is aloud in no cameras no food nothing and no palestine is aloud out , it breaks every single international humaneterian law there is but guess whos funding it? hey USA, they spend over 2 billion a year in foreign aid too israel which in turn use it too imprison palestine which is twice as much as any country on this planet receives , starving african children any1? makes me laugh how its taken 4 years for the goverment too finally broadcast something about the imprisonment of gaza , manipulation much? You only see what they want you too see.

But hey it isnt our fault we the british are americas pupets.

sort of made a few relevant points lol

wanna end with what i feel is appropriate too this topic

geogre carlin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bICwy...eature=related



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[ifuseekamy]

Do people still not understand that NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE EXTREMISTS? Seriously, how pathetic can one be. There are over 53 Islamic countries, only Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia are the only known countries where there are extremists. - Most Muslims are ashamed of the minority.

Most Islamic countries are hellholes run by extremists. "Sharia will be in London before Democracy is in Afghanistan" - says it all really.

[Hitman]

so what. theyre allowed their own opinion. youre not advocating we throw certain groups out because they have different views than the majority are you?

and laughing at throwing sausages at them? that's as offensive, if not more as it is an attack, as the original outburst.

Inciting violence and hatred is not freedom of speech, that's where it gets passed the line. These people can dislike the Armed Forces providing they don't incite hatred or violence - calling somebody a murderer is hatred. It is still downright disrespectful. If the UK came under attack and a war broke out between Britain and France, for arguments sake, then these troops would be fighting for our freedom, including the freedom of these stupid Islamic extremists.

@powerlifter, I'd appreciate it if you at least used words instead of substituting them for numbers... lots of short speak can be annoying to read. Again, of course the terrorists do not want us in the country - if we aren't there then they can run amok, which is what they want. Them being in power = increase in terror attacks. If they have access to planes, bombs, weapons etc. then they will not hesitate to use them against other countries, look at 9/11 - they had to hijack those planes, if they have their own it'll be easier.

The people who want a democratic, safe and peaceful Afghanistan want us there, to thwart the Taliban and bring that peace and stability. Not everyone in Afghanistan is a terrorist. or extremist

The reason a lot of Muslims, not just extremists, dislike our troops is because they see it as a war of religion. Christian/atheist troops vs Muslim extremists. Of course, not all of them do, there have been [very few] Muslims in the army, however my friend certainty doesn't like the Armed Forces and he's no extremist.