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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    The trouble is that unless you do propose invading these nations then theres not much you can do.
    i agree with you on this one. injustices happen every day, even within our own western, supposedly moral first world countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    The European Court of Human Rights should move to Iran where real human rights are needed for these people
    Spot the difference between the two highlighted words, Tom it's not our country, it's not our place to force our laws and morals upon any society that is alien to them

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    She's still on death sentence for "crime against God". It's still terrible!
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    Thing is its normal to do things like that. Just like its normal for us to wear tight speedo's to the shops on holiday but if we did it in England we would be arrested. Let them run there country how they like and maybe instead of funding even more soldiers to fight a pointless war we civilians might be able to buy a pint of milk for a decent price.

    Capish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I see that yet again the British government is interferring with the internal workings of another sovereign nation (Iran as per usual) but refrains often from commenting or risking upsetting the Peoples Republic of China whom also have a terrible human rights record. I hate this big boy bully stance we seem to take as the western world - we'll pressure/call the weaker nations a whole manner of names (sometimes even invade them!) but will not dare speak out again the likes of China.

    The icing on the cake for me though has always been when we call nations such as Iran and Zimbabwe 'undemocratic' - that really takes the biscuit.
    We don't do anything about countries like China (and boy, does it bother me too) because of something called free trade. Asia is given the get out of jail free card. Everyone (as usual) is playing follow the leader towards the Americans who, ignorantly wave their trade agreements around only caring about theirselves
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    We need to concentrate closer to home;

    - Credit Crunch
    - Murderess (Raoul Moat)
    - Homeless
    - Immigration

    Etc, Etc, Etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayke View Post
    We need to concentrate closer to home;

    - Credit Crunch
    - Murderess (Raoul Moat)
    - Homeless
    - Immigration

    Etc, Etc, Etc...
    I completely disagree. As established and stable nations I think we have a responsibility to work towards fair living standards and civil rights internationally.
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    If we had a really bad flood who would set up aid for us. We concentrate on other people rather than our own country. We need to sort priorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotelUser View Post
    I completely disagree. As established and stable nations I think we have a responsibility to work towards fair living standards and civil rights internationally.
    An utterly ridiculous notion which demeans the values and lifestyles of anyone not adhering to our own customs. We're richer, therefore our ideologies are right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    An utterly ridiculous notion which demeans the values and lifestyles of anyone not adhering to our own customs. We're richer, therefore our ideologies are right?
    Oh please. I have heard this argument before and it is extremely flawed. Fighting for civil rights and fair living conditions does not undermine the lifestyles of anyone not part of the western society. At some point in time we're going to have to establish a superiority in what we believe are fair rights for citizens of the world (infact--we already have with international civil right groups).

    Fighting for gender equality is not unfair to anyone's way of living
    Fighting for sweatshops and child labour to come to an end is not unfair to anyone's way of living
    Fighting for fair criminal consequences is not a breach to the fairness of anyone's lifestyle (if you're going to defend death by stoning or 99 lashes you can just get out of this thread now)
    Fighting for civil rights, so a kid can go to school all s/he wants, or I can move and get a job wherever and whenever I want to, wear whatever I want to, talk however I want to, make fair life choices is NOT a beach to the fairness of any culture or lifestyle.

    The sooner that people like you realize that there's absolutely nothing wrong with our governments helping people who need our help (how do I know they need our help? Because they're committing suicide due to their lives sucking). We shouldn't help them because we think we're better than them, we should help them because we're in a position where we can help them.
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    It's just the foreign minister doing his job and condemning a backwards country, I don't see the problem lol.

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