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    All of the parties suck to high heaven. Labour is irritating because they whimp around chucking money at problems making them worse. Are they honestly surprised they're in debt? Seemed obvious seeing as they put us in all this debt in the first place

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I heard a while back as i've discussed with Jordy that the Conservative Party and Labour Party were both in debt along with the Liberal Democrats (but to a lesser extent). The situation as it stands from what i've read around and so forth are;

    Parties that appear to be in the green; The Conservative Party, UKIP, the Liberal Democrats.
    Parties that appear to be in the red; The Labour Party, BNP.






    Well I can't understand such dislike to the Conservative Party, they are identical to the Labour Party in almost every single way.
    Have you any sources for this, Dan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    They have entirely different views on the Economy which is the main thing for a government. I'm getting tired of hearing such nonsense.
    They say they do when in reality they continue to waste billions upon billions and end up making the little guy pay for it. 'We'll cut your school budgets along with raising taxes but increase EU/foreign aid payments' - the same old nonsense from the old three discredited parties. I would suggest a good read of the Cameron Delusion by Peter Hitchens in which he charts the Fabianism of British politics since 1945 in which numerous Labour Party supporters/members actually state the need for the Conservative Party to continue to exist, and why? - because the Conservative Party never (apart from Thatchers partially successful attempts) repeals what Labour have done.

    In other words, the Conservative Party is seen as the breaking motor and nothing more by the left of this country, Labour politicians only pretend to be so outraged by the Tory Party because they are not the ones with the ministerial cars, the red boxed and the perks of the limelight - they know themselves that a Conservative government (especially one of self-proclaimed) the heir to Blair is nothing to fear because their project will merely be paused (or continue as is the case under this present government). This is all, one of the reasons why Thatcher is so hated by the left because she actually dared to roll back vital parts of the Labour project which has been in operation since before the war under Chamberlain.

    The economic point also doesn't make any sense because the Labour Party also promised cuts - the Tories have yet to deliver - now I know that your response will be 'but do you really believe what the Labour Party says?' and to that my answer is no, but I don't believe a word its pale-blue twin the Conservative Party says either. The Conservative Party spits on its supporters almost everytime it gains office; yet more military cuts, government waste never properly solved, never repealing Labour legislation, the inaction over the Grammer schools, the weak and non-existant opposition to the dissolution of the Empire + I could go on but we'd be here all night.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catzsy View Post
    Have you any sources for this, Dan?
    Well I know of the state of UKIP finances due to them winning a £300,000+ court case a few weeks ago along with watching interviews (recall Farage mentioned it not long ago after the election that the party was not in the red and was infact in the green, although he did say the party needed to start raising cash as the cupboards were emptied but remained in the green with the general election campaign just past). The Labour Party we know are in debt and sources have been provided in this thread, the Tory Party seems in pretty good shape now and the Liberal Democrats only had a small debt last year (which I suspect they've broken even after the election/only have a small debt left to pay).

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