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Thread: Experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurav View Post
    HotelUser has a say on who gets it and its possible others were chosen but he said no to them.
    Although that could happen I suppose in this situation it isn't the case at all. In HxHD (or since I've been the manager at least) whenever we've required an Assistant Manager I've told general management a selection of the staff members who are able to assume the position and then we have a discussion about it. As I think someone mentioned above general management do have the final say however I won't spectate as to whether or not that played a role in this decision.

    The choice came down to either Shannon or Jordan and it was not a quick or easy decision for anyone involved. Shannon would have made an excellent manager of the department and it would have been a pleasure working with her in all aspects of the job. She is an asset to this team and one of our most active staff members. When either Jordan or myself resign she will most undoubtably have her shot at managing the department and I hope she sticks around to have her chance to.
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    It's not about the experience, it's about the ability to be able to run a department. SS should be backing him up, not ripping him down
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    There is an awful lot to consider when choosing someone to fill a managerial role, the comparison you make between this situation and Shar and how "we" (although I wasn't here) said that Shar was promoted to Assistant Manager for her experience that would be managerial experience and not experience within the help desk.

    As far as I'm aware this has, and always will be the case at Habbox - the person who ticks all the boxes (or the most boxes) will get the job (this was certainly the situation with Jordesh), that's not at all saying that others don't deserve it, haven't worked for it and most importantly it's not saying that they won't ever get a shot.
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    Management decisions aren't made in 5 seconds, it takes hours, sometimes days. I'm sure Dave and the general management involved would have discussed it thoroughly and it was Jord who was promoted. That's not saying that the other staff are 'unworthy' at all. Personally, I think if staff are feeling disgruntled that they haven't been promoted, then maybe they're not in the department for the right reasons.

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    You don't really have an strong argument, because either way the more you moan it isn't going to make management remove jordan as assistant. Just sit back, work harder and you'll get offered the job next time round.
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    All outcomes at the end of the day will cause some kind of uproar or stir. Overall, it is a management decision and they have picked the best person for the job, in the best interest of HxHD after recent occurrences. It's a shame for the other super staff - yes, but as Josh pointed out, 2 international managers in a department full of gmt/bst staff wouldn't be convenient. Whoever got the job would have done a good job, I'm pretty sure, and I wish Jordan and all the new fresh faces of management the best of luck.
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    I would have picked Shannon as she is a great girl deserving of a chance, and doesn't have the temper of a string.

    I would have done this or offered it to an ex-manager who I know was decent in the past like Scott, Hayley, Ben and so forth. I'd like to actually see if this raises the stats at the HxHD or if it's just another waste of a position, because at the end of the day no one can judge until the actual statistics are out in terms of room popularity, activity etc.
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    Out with the old, in with the new. In other words give him a chance.
    Last edited by Shar; 12-10-2010 at 04:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvrspk4 View Post
    I'm sure this decision, as with many others, wasn't made flippantly. I'm sure there are a few staff leaving and you extrapolate this to many staff leaving. In my opinion, if staff are throwing their toys out the pram because of one decision, it shows that their priority is not the success of the department but their own stature.

    I agree that ranks should not be made to be given away, I was a big fan of that myself, but I also think that there are times when unconventional decisions need to be made, and if the staff can't recognize that and suck it up for a short time in the interest of the greater good, then its their loss.

    Of course, that's just my opinion
    Quite alot of unconventional decisions have been made recently which have been the worst decisions made by Management I'm not entirely sure why you're calling it unconventional, as that just seems to be a cover up method. I can't blame some of these staff members for complaining that an unexperienced member of their team has been promoted when they've not been a dedicated/major member of the team, so it's justified really. If he has the experience/dedication, then good for him, but obviously something is wrong if there are some problems regarding it. Surely the team should of been notified of the reason he was chucked up the ranks so quickly? It's no wonder morale seems so low lately, when people are being kept out in the dark. As mentioned in many previous threads, communication is non-existent :/
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    Tbh, give Jordan some slack. He does have management experiences. Just give him a chance?
    Yes Shannon, I always see you in the HxHD, and sure you would have been a great assistant manager, so would others, but anyway, I feel Shar is right when saying there will always be some problem to a promotion.

    Like others have said at the end of the day it's the (A)GM decisions, and what they say goes. Yes, it was different when Shar returned, and Shar understood that, but, you say you gain experience from working at a management level - indeed you do. But does it really matter who got the job? Really? Aren't HxHD suppose to be a close knit family to keep this fansite alive from the ever failing forum (O btw it's a lot quicker today ). HxHD is an advertisement for Hx, and squabbling over who got Assistant and who didn't isn't the right way to go about it is it?
    If you look on the official fansite list, and visit their sites, you will find half of them have up sticks and closed their doors. SURELY, this is a great gain for Habbox, people usually wish to go to official fansites, so you need to make it the best you possible can. Advertise HxHD as much as you can, show them Hx is easy, friendly and can help. Because at the moment, if you are focusing who got an Assistant management role, you clearly aren't helping are you now?

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