Arizona Representative Gabrielle Giffords is shot

[Stephen]

The guy who shot her's youtube and some weird videos he made



http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10

might get removed soon though but I think people are reupping

[Mrs.McCall]

Everyone's blaming Sarah Palin which is ridiculous. Yes she's done stupid things but it's not her fault one nutjob took it too far.

Her TV show hasn't been renewed which many believe she quit because she is thinking of running for President in 2012.

So, she really needs this negative publicity like a hole... well, you know.

[RedStratocas]

Everyone's blaming Sarah Palin which is ridiculous. Yes she's done stupid things but it's not her fault one nutjob took it too far.

on sarah palin's website


the congresswoman's district in crosshairs on sarah palin's website:


after the health care bill passed, she tweets "Don't retreat, instead- RELOAD!"

of course sarah palin is not specifically to blame, but its her blatantly irresponsible rhetoric that makes so many republican nutjobs think its their responsibility to "save america" by attacking this woman for her politics. this isnt the first time this woman has been threatened and attacked, a gun was dropped at a previous rally of hers and someone smashed the front of her office after the health care bill passed. when bush was in office, republicans weren't getting constant death threats from democrats. but i dont think theres a single person in congress who voted for the health care bill who hasnt gotten death threats. sarah palin personalizes and demonizes other people and it makes for a completely dangerous and dysfunctional political landscape. she has to learn that there's consequences to her rhetoric.

i find the C word very offensive and i never use it, but i might make an exception with sarah palin.

.... Why was she shot? The man who did it is a bit of a berk to be honest, not sure what he was attempting to prove. This is why you shouldn't give guns out willy nilly to apes.

a lot of people are assuming he was angry about her immigration/health care stance (which is reasonable, as there have been lots of death threats and acts of violence towards people with her stance) however not all the facts are out, and from the looks of it so far it seems like this man might have simply been a lunatic. his views make no sense. if you watch his youtube videos, youll probably just be more confused.

[-:Undertaker:-]

of course sarah palin is not specifically to blame, but its her blatantly irresponsible rhetoric that makes so many republican nutjobs think its their responsibility to "save america" by attacking this woman for her politics.

she has to learn that there's consequences to her rhetoric.

Or maybe instead of blaming (or lightly pinning the blame on) Sarah Palin (who I see as part of the same GOP-Democratic Party anyway) you should blame the guy who actually carried this out on his own merits, instead of using his own head and thinking 'hang on, if I do x the consquence will be x'. I think a lot of people have lost sense of what personal responsibility means - that you are in control and you alone are responsible for actions you take.

If I told you to stick your hand in the fire would you?

No, you wouldn't.

[Misawa]

If she recovers I'm sure she'll be regretting living in place of the 9-year-old girl.

[Stephen]

she removed her tweet about reloading

[Fez]

This sums up my thoughts nicely:

[RedStratocas]

Or maybe instead of blaming (or lightly pinning the blame on) Sarah Palin (who I see as part of the same GOP-Democratic Party anyway) you should blame the guy who actually carried this out on his own merits, instead of using his own head and thinking 'hang on, if I do x the consquence will be x'. I think a lot of people have lost sense of what personal responsibility means - that you are in control and you alone are responsible for actions you take.

If I told you to stick your hand in the fire would you?

No, you wouldn't.

you missed the point. firstly, this man is insane. you're right , I PERSONALLY would not stick my hand in fire. however, someone who is MENTALLY UNSTABLE might. especially if you tell that man his way of life may be in danger if he doesn't. obviously i'm not saying sarah palin pulled the trigger or even directly influenced this man to carry out the attacks (although i wouldn't rule it out), but its how she and other GOP talking heads rile up peoples emotions for no god damn reason over issues that aren't nearly as severe as they say they are that allow the tense political landscape where these types of things happen. sarah palin's mantra is "the health care bill is destroying america" which is a statement that is ridiculous to the point of irresponsibility. the GOP has been telling people that the health care bill will allow for the government to kill your relatives who are too old, that the next step up from it is a completely socialist society. do you think people would be bringing guns to democratic rallies and threatening the lives of politicians if the talking heads of the GOP were honest and said "your taxes might go up in about 5 years because of the health care bill and thats about it"? obviously not, because the only way the GOP gets votes nowadays is if they instill fear in their base. making people fear for their livelihoods makes people act in ways they would not otherwise.

this is a nicely written article. and the olbermann piece that fez posted is quite good too, although ive always thought that guy was a jerk even though i agree with him.

If she recovers I'm sure she'll be regretting living in place of the 9-year-old girl.

what an awful thing to say, its not her fault she survived while a little girl died?

[Nemo]

So is she in a stable condition now or has she died?

[Stephen]

Wouldn't you regret it if you were targetted by a gunman and a 9 year old got killed and you survived?