HabboxLive Ideas

[Jacob]

I agree with a lot of what you have mentioned above but I think a lot of the things such as the 'DJ' title is unique and traditionally a Habbo fan site thing. You've got some really good ideas and I can tell that you have really thought this through +rep!

[Mark]

I agree with the first few points however the point of a perm show is the have the same theme every week. Changing the theme of a perm show would no longer make it a perm show just a show that someone has booked at a certain time every week.

I agree with the layout and about the DJ names however a lot of people now only use their name in their stream title and not 'DJ .....'

About the application thing I don't think this would work. Knowing myself the amount of applications that HabboxLive get I think this would simply be not possible as it would take too much time to put every DJ that applies on a trial server for 10 minutes. This does happen at a lot of fansites but with the amount of people that apply at habboxlive I don't see this happening.

I totally disagree, changing the theme of a perm show still makes it a perm show, if somebody wants to listen to Rock songs they're not going to wait until the perm show to listen to it they will go to the likes of Spotify or iTunes. One of my main points about this thread is variety, something a lot of DJs struggle to do. By cutting down the perm shows, having them twice a week and change the theme from time to time doesn't hurt anyone. If you advertise it correctly then I don't see how the listeners won't go up. Just because the theme has changed still makes it a perm show because it is on at the same time each week.

As far as the DJs are concerned there is already a bit saying "Current DJ:" on HabboxLive.com. By taking that away, cutting down the silly names and then taking away the little jingles saying "DJ-DJ-DJ ICEEEE" then it will run smoother and stop the robotic DJ Ice, DJ Jammy, DJ Richie.

It's a matter of getting better DJs or losing even more listeners. With all due respect, I have to admit that a handful of the DJs sound and act like they cannot DJ at all. Struggling to get the next song on and talking about their Habbo being laggy while typing on msn (and we can hear the typing) is a little unprofessional. If I were you I'd be aiming high so even that little extra work judging the DJs by doing a 5 or 10 minute preview show wouldn't do any harm whatsoever. If you're talking about judging 10 DJs on a short preview using Sam Broadcaster it won't take anything more than 2 hours. Get all the DJs into an msn conversation, tell them the list and then tell them when to connect and disconnect. This will make it flow and this will result in a lot more good DJs and a lot less DJs that have decided to do it because their bestfriends ex boyfriend on habbo has DJed a few times before on an unofficial fansite. It will also give them something to aim for and then when they improve it is very rewarding. Also, I find that tuning into your local radio station does the world of good! Listening to professional DJs on air and listening how they act, how their voice is and their general DJ style makes a world of difference. If the DJs then 'copy' that, they are sounding and acting better on air! People may say, that is what the trial is for but the above suggestion is a lot less hassle than adding the trial dj perms, getting the encoders set up, making the radio sound a little unprofessional depending on who has been chosen and then keeping or removing the perms depending on their trial. The main point of the suggestion above is for the radio to sound more professional.

As for the name 'DJ'. I never really liked this term, therefore, I ended up just calling myself Grig on air rather than DJ Grig.

I disagree about the shows, I do not think there should be a smaller amount of them, if not incorporate a couple more of them. But re-brand the, image- make them something more that people would want to tune in.

As for having a rota of songs needed to play, yet again I completely disagree. We are going to turn in somewhat robotic if doing that, yes we need to encourage variety and this is exactly what we do, but we do not want to loose the freedom in music variety that we have now.

I have to agree with you, when you did DJ a lot more on HxL you sounded great! I think calling yourself Grig was a fantastic idea and it sounded great on air! As I said at the start of the thread, Jammy, Richie and Grig sound a lot better than DJ Jammy, DJ Richie, DJ Grig.

I don't think it will turn robotic at all and I have to agree i think i was being a little harsh with that suggestion, I think there should be a rota like thing in place where DJs have to play variety, rather than songs from the 00's play songs from the 80's and 90's. I have heard of many professional Radio Stations being told to do this but still focus on the up-to-date. This will increase the listeners and stop the stereotypical view of HabboxLive playing all the up-to-date songs.

The DJ Variety imo has improved slightly from what it was a few months ago, but maybe having a few themed shows would be good for HxL.

About the term DJ i still don't think many DJs actually call themselves "DJ" they mostly just say as Grig said he just calls himself Grig.

also +rep to you Mark.

It has improved but it still isn't great. A lot of the new DJs I have never met before so I couldn't really comment. But I think that if you have a little rota thing to stick to and even make it as simple as 1 80's song, 1 90's song and then 3 00's song or something along those lines. This can obviously be adapted to suit yourself and Gemma.

Also, thank you for the +Rep!

I've always thought the its so cringe worthy when someone calls themselves "DJ" - I think this is a great idea.

Nice to see someone agrees with me!

If it could help the quality of DJing then I don't see how this couldn't help.

Agreed.

Sounds like a great idea, but is that really practical? Surely a DJ should know that they have to play a variety of music and setting them certain types of music would make it feel more robotic in my eyes.. I think the music choice should be up to the DJ themselves...

I disagree, as I have said above even doing the simple 1- 80's song, 1 - 90's song and then a few up-to-date song and then do requests. this would fill the whole show and make things a lot better! If the DJ still has time then the process should be done again. The music shouldn't be all up to the DJ hence why the request line is there, the DJs should always think on what the listeners would like to hear not what they want to hear.

Surely the whole point of this Perm show is for Dubstep fans to tune in? That's the target audience for this perm show, so I don't see why/should be changed.

I suppose that TV could be added, but I think it should be up to the choice of the DJ. There also wouldn't be any harm in keeping it movie's and then someone else doing a TV targeted show.

I know that they do/did this on Radio1 and seems popular and a theme each week could mix it up a bit more..

The same applies to what I said about the Dubstep hour to be honest, the show is aimed at people who like listening to rock...

I'm part and part on this. My main suggestion was variety. Taking the perm shows, and changing them to suit other people is a good idea. A few DJs did a poll on community notice board or something along those lines and I thought the show was amazing! It got a lot of old listeners tuned back in for 1 hour only. This need to be increased not just for 1 hour and for most of the time. Hence why I said increase the variety of the perm shows by making a poll or using a schedule on what's going to be on next week.

I agree with a lot of what you have mentioned above but I think a lot of the things such as the 'DJ' title is unique and traditionally a Habbo fan site thing. You've got some really good ideas and I can tell that you have really thought this through +rep!

The DJ title is traditional to Habbo Fansites because it is the only word that has ever been used to define a presenter on the radio. What I did suggest is just calling the DJs Jammy, Richie, Grig. Things would souns a lot better. I personally would rather here "Welcome to HabboxLive, taking you through this next hour with a fantastic variety of music is the one and only, Richie!!" The DJ part sounds quite childish and a little repetative. Thanks for +Rep!

[Sarah]

I disagree, as I have said above even doing the simple 1- 80's song, 1 - 90's song and then a few up-to-date song and then do requests. this would fill the whole show and make things a lot better! If the DJ still has time then the process should be done again. The music shouldn't be all up to the DJ hence why the request line is there, the DJs should always think on what the listeners would like to hear not what they want to hear.

Let me rephrase that, it should be the DJ who decides what to play with input from the request line - that goes without saying really. .

[Mark]

Let me rephrase that, it should be the DJ who decides what to play with input from the request line - that goes without saying really. .

Fair enough

[lawrawrrr]

I definitely agree with the majority that you've said, marky. I know for one, that I've tuned out recently because of the small amount of variety on each show, but I do see where the others are coming from on the "robotic" front, it really limits the DJs on what they can play.

Referring to the trial thing, I think it's a fantastic idea that the top trialists have to go through some more rigorous testing - it's really offputting when they're meant to be DJing but are talking on msn or having laugh on skype (unless necessary for the show). The amount of applicants that they get. It's probably not a feasible idea, but as I said, if they pick the best out of the 60 second clips, and just test them, then I believe we may have a much stronger team (although I'm not criticising the current team, it's only a small minority).

I definitely agree with you on the layout thing - I used to tune in on the habbox main website, and I know a few other people did too, because live is a bit of an eyesore on occasions. That's not a criticism to the designers, but it's been around for a while and it's getting a bit old IMO. However, merging it into the main website seems like a huge step - and increases page traffic hugely. The other simple "habbo radio" sites are getting a number of hits, even if they are unofficial, so this seems like live should keep relatively separate from the rest of habbox.

There have been a lot of new fansites and radio sites cropping up recently and this just increases the competition for listeners, so I think we (or rather, you) need to do everything we can to get some of our older ones back.

+rep when I get back on my laptop marky

[Mark]

I definitely agree with the majority that you've said, marky. I know for one, that I've tuned out recently because of the small amount of variety on each show, but I do see where the others are coming from on the "robotic" front, it really limits the DJs on what they can play.

Referring to the trial thing, I think it's a fantastic idea that the top trialists have to go through some more rigorous testing - it's really offputting when they're meant to be DJing but are talking on msn or having laugh on skype (unless necessary for the show). The amount of applicants that they get. It's probably not a feasible idea, but as I said, if they pick the best out of the 60 second clips, and just test them, then I believe we may have a much stronger team (although I'm not criticising the current team, it's only a small minority).

I definitely agree with you on the layout thing - I used to tune in on the habbox main website, and I know a few other people did too, because live is a bit of an eyesore on occasions. That's not a criticism to the designers, but it's been around for a while and it's getting a bit old IMO. However, merging it into the main website seems like a huge step - and increases page traffic hugely. The other simple "habbo radio" sites are getting a number of hits, even if they are unofficial, so this seems like live should keep relatively separate from the rest of habbox.

There have been a lot of new fansites and radio sites cropping up recently and this just increases the competition for listeners, so I think we (or rather, you) need to do everything we can to get some of our older ones back.

+rep when I get back on my laptop marky

Thanks fior the +Rep! Also, I tried to explain myself about the robotic thing above

[Hayleigh]

Thing about the rota is that i would tune out if it was just rock however if there was only one or two rock songs in an hour i would stay tuned in ?

[AgnesIO]

I agree with the first few points however the point of a perm show is the have the same theme every week. Changing the theme of a perm show would no longer make it a perm show just a show that someone has booked at a certain time every week.

I agree with the layout and about the DJ names however a lot of people now only use their name in their stream title and not 'DJ .....'

About the application thing I don't think this would work. Knowing myself the amount of applications that HabboxLive get I think this would simply be not possible as it would take too much time to put every DJ that applies on a trial server for 10 minutes. This does happen at a lot of fansites but with the amount of people that apply at habboxlive I don't see this happening.

Surely then, you take, lets say ten of the best applicants, and stick them on a trial server? No one wants to listen to a squeaky boy talk about how cool he was at school the other day. No offence meant, but it is TRUE. I think the reason people enjoyed listening back in the day, is because the DJ's were older than the listeners. I don't want to tune in to someone younger than me though, talking about a load of ******** while playing Barbie Girl.

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I agreed with a lot of what you said Marky, and I am on the wall with the whole idea of changing perm shows. Perm shows can be brilliant to attract different people to Habbox. Changing the theme would remove this chance, but at the same time, perhaps attract more people to Habbox? I mean, I will NEVER tune in to a dubstep show. So for at least one hour every week you could potentially be losing users. But if I enjoyed listening to the DJ, and also didn't love the music one week, but the next week loved the genre (but didn't know I did before), I would tune in weekly.

I, surprisingly, think removing DJ would be a good idea! Instead of 'Head DJ' you would have 'Head Radio Staff'. I think 'Senior Radio Staff', sounds more mature than 'Senior DJ' - although it is longer. The Radio department could do with changes after all. I know that Habbo is partly responsible for the loss of listeners, but you won't get anywhere in life if you put the blame on someone else all the time.

[Conservative,]

I agree completely - I only read the first post but I do agree with everything that was said.

I do not mean to cause offence but some DJs have great DJing voices, but have no clue how to use SAM - hence making them sound nooby on air.

I also agree "DJs" should be changed. I think "Radio presenters" and then instead of "Staff List" have "Our Presenters" or something.

If I ever return I will happily pick up my perm shows where I left off - both the Blast From The Past and The Game Show. These both got high praise and great feedback, so I think more of these things need to be done, and not necessarily more chat shows. I think chat shows are good, but you need to keep the amount down so they are affective.

Oh, and going back a minute, for the trial process, I agree. A quick 5-10 minute "demo" if you like, of what the DJ can do on SAM on a private radio would up the standards. Not only can it judge their voice - the only thing you get in a voice recording - but their confidence on air, their confidence with SAM, and what their music quality is like. (edit) Matt, just read your post. As Milestone has suggested - take the best 10-15 applicants then pop them on the trial server, listen to them when you've made your decision take them off. It doesn't HAVE to be 10 minutes. Heck, at other sites that do this I've been on and off in 3. It just gives you an insight into what they can do on REAL radio, not a little voice recording. And then once you've listened to them you can out the best 5-7 through for a trial?

As an ex-DJ, I do have a little more insight, and I agree that these changes would be for the better.

Edit: The only thing I disagree with is the rota. It makes it robotic. Obviously every DJ has their favourite genre, so they're going to play more of that. Personally I put requests before myself unless I'm streaming, so if I get a request I'll play that before anything I want to play. But if they're forced to play certain genres or eras, it will make it repetitive because there are always eras & genres people don't like, and dont have any of, so if they were to be forced to play that era or genre they'll get 1 song and stick it on every show.

[Grig]

It's a matter of getting better DJs or losing even more listeners. With all due respect, I have to admit that a handful of the DJs sound and act like they cannot DJ at all. Struggling to get the next song on and talking about their Habbo being laggy while typing on msn (and we can hear the typing) is a little unprofessional. If I were you I'd be aiming high so even that little extra work judging the DJs by doing a 5 or 10 minute preview show wouldn't do any harm whatsoever. If you're talking about judging 10 DJs on a short preview using Sam Broadcaster it won't take anything more than 2 hours. Get all the DJs into an msn conversation, tell them the list and then tell them when to connect and disconnect. This will make it flow and this will result in a lot more good DJs and a lot less DJs that have decided to do it because their bestfriends ex boyfriend on habbo has DJed a few times before on an unofficial fansite. It will also give them something to aim for and then when they improve it is very rewarding. Also, I find that tuning into your local radio station does the world of good! Listening to professional DJs on air and listening how they act, how their voice is and their general DJ style makes a world of difference. If the DJs then 'copy' that, they are sounding and acting better on air! People may say, that is what the trial is for but the above suggestion is a lot less hassle than adding the trial dj perms, getting the encoders set up, making the radio sound a little unprofessional depending on who has been chosen and then keeping or removing the perms depending on their trial. The main point of the suggestion above is for the radio to sound more professional.

I would like to agree on this point, that when starting out, tunning into a local radio gave me lots of ideas and things to work on and was a great way in improving. But we must remember, that we need to draw and fine line- this is all fine and dandy, but we are a Habbo based radio station and our target audience are not 40 year old women. There is a limit we can go to make it sound professional, however, sometimes it isn't about quantity, but about quality. Filling up a timetable with DJs isn't the way forward, it's slowly building a quality team, WHICH is VERY HARD because truly great DJs don't come along very often nowadays so we have to work from what we can get and by building up a team and working with them in forms of feedback PMs and what not, it could actually work out .