French Burka Ban comes into force

[-:Undertaker:-]

Look at it this way, we don't stop Catholics having mass, when this is a Protestant country, and the majority of people living here aren't even religious, so why would we stop women wearing burkas? No need it is just a pointless exercise.

The burka is not a part of the Islamic faith, and even if it were to be a part of the the faith - that is still not a reason to allow this to go on whatever your view, unless you subscribe to the totally unworkable ideology of multi-culturalism of which we have seen the results of; ghettoisation.

Now I don't like the state telling people what they can and cannot wear as I think its very authoritarian just as the last government was and the present government is with their trashing of our ancient civil liberties which I think should be more strongly opposed rather than opposing a hypothetical ban which is unlikely to happen in this country anyway. But what I do support, and its part of the UKIP manifesto which floated this idea over a year ago in this country - is to allow shops/private business the option to ban the burka alongside helmets etc if they should wish to do so meaning that the people have the choice of what to do rather than the state arresting people for wearing a piece of cloth over their face.

That is a correct way to go about it in my opinion but on the other hand I can understand why many would want an outright ban due to the fact they have been flooded with immigration and now when they walk around their local town/village, a large part of the populace are wearing burkas - I wouldn't like to live amongst that and I doubt you would either. Of course, mass immigration is yet another issue which also needs to be resolved.

It's funny because Islam actually originated in Spian/France and spread through Europe into the middle east and now they're banning practically their own religious dress. However while you may compare it to being like Catholics taking mass it's not. Unfortunately people do misuse the burka there is no way of telling who is under it and the french obviously see that as too much of a security risk

As far as i'm aware, Islam did not originate in Europe but in the Middle East although yes Spain was once muslim - just as we were once Catholic.

[matt$]

As undertaker said the burka isn't part of the islam culture and if im not mistaken wasn't it worn in middle east due to hot weather etc or something but anyway, if we're not aloud to wear a hoody in most shops then why should they be able to cover their entire face. The entire world is just trying too hard to not offend anyone.

[Alkaz]

When you hear stories of women being ushered out of a super market by security because she wouldn't leave after a muslim wouldn't serve her because she was wearing a cross I think it's good to hear things like this. I know that we wouldn't dare enforce that here but I think it's good that some countries are taking a stand. If you went over to some of those far eastern countries and did what some people do here, you would be hung, drawn and quartered.

[Josh]

Taking a right away from one minority, to protect the right for the majority.

I agree with the ban. Sure, it infringes on people's rights, but by keeping them, people may feel unsafe.

[beth]

The burka is not a part of the Islamic faith, and even if it were to be a part of the the faith - that is still not a reason to allow this to go on whatever your view, unless you subscribe to the totally unworkable ideology of multi-culturalism of which we have seen the results of; ghettoisation.

Now I don't like the state telling people what they can and cannot wear as I think its very authoritarian just as the last government was and the present government is with their trashing of our ancient civil liberties which I think should be more strongly opposed rather than opposing a hypothetical ban which is unlikely to happen in this country anyway. But what I do support, and its part of the UKIP manifesto which floated this idea over a year ago in this country - is to allow shops/private business the option to ban the burka alongside helmets etc if they should wish to do so meaning that the people have the choice of what to do rather than the state arresting people for wearing a piece of cloth over their face.

That is a correct way to go about it in my opinion but on the other hand I can understand why many would want an outright ban due to the fact they have been flooded with immigration and now when they walk around their local town/village, a large part of the populace are wearing burkas - I wouldn't like to live amongst that and I doubt you would either. Of course, mass immigration is yet another issue which also needs to be resolved.



As far as i'm aware, Islam did not originate in Europe but in the Middle East although yes Spain was once muslim - just as we were once Catholic.

my lord, we agree for once. totally agree with this. don't like the principle of forcing people into doing something, but i do believe the burka does not "work" as such in a modern, western world.
and yeh, spain/portugal that area was once muslim, in shakespeare's work the spanish are refered to as arabs.

[Sian]

oh good, people who agree with me. It's not right, it's part of their religious practice and beliefs and it should be left alone. If people are scared of seeing people in burkhas they need to get over it - unless someone attacked them wearing one of course.

[beth]

oh good, people who agree with me. It's not right, it's part of their religious practice and beliefs and it should be left alone. If people are scared of seeing people in burkhas they need to get over it - unless someone attacked them wearing one of course.

it's not a case of being "scared", the burka hides identity and in a modern world, i don't believe someones identity should be withheld.

[Eoin247]

It's funny because Islam actually originated in Spian/France and spread through Europe into the middle east and now they're banning practically their own religious dress. However while you may compare it to being like Catholics taking mass it's not. Unfortunately people do misuse the burka there is no way of telling who is under it and the french obviously see that as too much of a security risk

Not true at all. It originated in the area of what was Arabia in the middle east. Don't know where you got this from lol.

I agree that covering up your entire facial features is a security risk and so it's rightfully banned.

The funny thing is that this also applies to beekeepers. Apparently theres now some big problem with them wearing them in some places lol.

[Sian]

I think it's a case of being scared if people can't hide their identity, of course it is seen as being linked to crime but I still think it's a bit ridiculous. Though i'd probably allow people to hide their faces anyway.

[Niall!]

If I was to go out in a balaclava I would be arrested most likely. No one should have to deal with faceless figures walking down the street wondering who is under there. One of them sat about 2 rows down from me on a plane journey last christmas and I was genuinely terrified, simply because I couldn't see their face.

I know she was HOPEFULLY screened and assessed beforehand, but it was really frightening.