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    From my experience at Habbox, the aim was always to strike a balance between discussion and trial. While we didn't want to jump into decisions too quickly (hence our refusal to add forums we considered "fads" and our insistence that a consistent demand was shown for that forum before we added it) but at the same time we couldn't discuss every possibility or predict every outcome.

    In the past, Habbox has made the mistake of trying to stick with its decisions and force them to work even when it was clear that the best option would be to abandon the plan. GMs learned from the mistakes of their predecessors very quickly and decided that there was a balance needed between both discussion and a trial period of sorts to see if it works, and lots of major changes were implemented with BETA periods.

    I don't know the specifics of this case, so it could be an outlier, but usually things are discussed quite a bit, but (hopefully) not discussed to death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grig View Post
    When someone said about the super staff being changed to 'senior staff', they said no point, might as well call them 'super staff' again to follow the HxHD tradition but with different roles. A bit like Head DJs kept their name- we didn't change them to 'DJ Expert' or something like that :p. Just an opinion there , seeing as it's still a rank above normal!
    The decision to keep the name different would be to differentiate the role, the Head DJ example you gave still fits the role very well and the roles of the HabboxLive Head DJs did not change massively, there's just more of them with a little more responsibility when it comes to staff.

    In theory, these new "Senior" roles in Habbox Help Desk are the former Team Leader role and I think a different name from "Super Staff" was decided in the correct way by Roxy & Martin as Super Staff used to basically mean staff with rights and now the "Senior Role" is "in charge" per se of a group of staff when all staff have rights (bar trialists). I would however support any movement to have the role changed to "Team Leader" although the name is not a major thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inseriousity. View Post
    I disagree. I personally hate how everything has so much discussion and a little less decisive action. If you're going to be so busy talking about doing something, you're not actually going to do it. Obviously, that doesn't mean just rushing into things but there also has to be a balance between discussion and action.

    It's also important that if management feel like a mistake has been made then they have the guts to hold their hands up and admit 'we made a mistake, let's change it back.' It's only an online forum run by teenagers so mistakes will be made.
    lol management admitting they're wrong, as if that's gonna happen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NaughtyNemo View Post
    lol management admitting they're wrong, as if that's gonna happen.
    How is a trialling something new a mistake? There is always a possibility that something will not work and because it doesn't for whatever reason does not make it a mistake or poor judgment etc - it just means they are more flexible and will give new ideas a go. Would you guys be posting a thread if it had have worked congratulating them? It would be so much worse if they didn't try out new things and just stuck to the old systems because that has always been the way to do it. Nothing in life happens positively without a bit of trial and error.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catz View Post
    How is a trialling something new a mistake? There is always a possibility that something will not work and because it doesn't for whatever reason does not make it a mistake or poor judgment etc - it just means they are more flexible and will give new ideas a go. Would you guys be posting a thread if it had have worked congratulating them? It would be so much worse if they didn't try out new things and just stuck to the old systems because that has always been the way to do it. Nothing in life happens positively without a bit of trial and error.

    How I see it is, why fix something that isn't broken? It was perfectly fine how it was, perhaps that's just me, In some situations I'm a man (Pause, yes I am a man) who doesn't like to see much change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catz View Post
    How is a trialling something new a mistake? There is always a possibility that something will not work and because it doesn't for whatever reason does not make it a mistake or poor judgment etc - it just means they are more flexible and will give new ideas a go. Would you guys be posting a thread if it had have worked congratulating them? It would be so much worse if they didn't try out new things and just stuck to the old systems because that has always been the way to do it. Nothing in life happens positively without a bit of trial and error.
    You say what now? I was just talking more in general in answer to inseriousity


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richie View Post
    How I see it is, why fix something that isn't broken? It was perfectly fine how it was, perhaps that's just me, In some situations I'm a man (Pause, yes I am a man) who doesn't like to see much change.
    Well you know lessons may have been learned here to a certain extent and without learning lessons one would not progress. I like the way the new initiatives are livening up the place and you know that controversy always breeds more members so it's a win win!

    Quote Originally Posted by NaughtyNemo View Post
    You say what now? I was just talking more in general in answer to inseriousity
    Yes sorry Niamh, I should have quoted him as well for it to make full sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaughtyNemo View Post
    lol management admitting they're wrong, as if that's gonna happen.
    Pretty sure part of the basis behind this thread is that management did just that
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvrspk4 View Post
    Pretty sure part of the basis behind this thread is that management did just that
    I think management pulls a bit of an apple, removing something because it's 'broken' or 'unneeded' and then reimplementing it with the words 'Revolutionary'.

    I've seen some features introduced around Habbox recently that have previously been rejected, you may say that management is getting better at accepting ideas, it isn't something that comes from a six month turnaround, it's just management being inconsistent with ideas and it is coming heavily from the fact that management is changing hands so often. Then you come up with the fantastic idea of having a frequently denied requests thread, what's the point in that if management are going to turn around in six months and implement it saying it's their idea.
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    Senior role was added and I went into HxHD at like 7am (4pm my time) and there was FOUR staff, this works.

    therefore the introduction of a new Senior role was needed - the new role has no resemblance to the old super staff role.
    What does senior do
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