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    I think the news is sad given it's good (up until recently) history in Britain exposing naughty celebrity's and how the actions of so few have now cost up to 200 jobs, many of whom actually did the deeds have actually left the organisation. Furthermore its an iconic brand that has just always been there.

    Generally it used to entertain me as a reader with all it's crap and gossip mixed in with some serious current affairs. And of course it was the cheapest!

    Although all things taken into account, I feel it was the right decision as the company did wrong and the image has just been crushed and I'm sure many readers would have boycotted the paper anyway. And of course Murdoch also wants BSkyB so he didn't have much of a choice!
    One for the road. :rolleyes:

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    It could have quite easily restored it's image. Let's be honest, the advertising boycott won't last forever before the companies realise they NEED advertising. The general public? Well.... it has a circulation of 2.8 million, so even if 800,000 people stop buying it, it's still a hefty amount! That paper could probably be free and make a profit from advertising anyway.

    But yeah, I do suppose it came at the right time for Murdoch considering he's currently trying to acquire the rest of BSkyB. Might as well just get it all sorted out.

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    This doesn't change anything.

    The journalists under the News of the World will lose their jobs, who are mostly decent, honest folk who work dishonestly, and Murdoch will likely profit morally from the whole "proceeds go to charity". The deal with BSkyB will go ahead and then Murdoch will have control over MOST of the British media and thus the public because that is how democracy works.

    Individuals under News of the World are guilty as charged, but not EVERYONE who worked there revelled in the fact they pushed Murdoch agenda down the throats of the British public and I will be willing to bet that the vast majority of them were just trapped in the world of this little piece of journalism recently caught within conspiracy and corruption. Those responsible need to be held more accountable than an entire organization of people.

    Murdoch will win, it is inevitable.

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    They won't lose their jobs, most of them will end up at the new one they're likely to replace it with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inseriousity.
    that ultimately this has a negative effect on Murdoch's BSkyB bid, no individual or group should have too much control over the mass media.
    In a way i'm in agreement, however people usually leave out the fact that the biggest monopoly in our media system is the BBC itself and not the Murdoch Empire which only owns two or three papers and BSkyB. I'm no big fan of Murdoch anyway seeing we he helped both Labour and the Conservative and Unionist Party get into office over the past decade instead of supporting a genuine right-wing party. The media should be unregulated including buyouts, if people do not wish to read certain views then they do not have to (as sales figures show that right-wing papers vastly outsell those on the left). At the same time however, all monopolies should be abolished, and monopolies only exist because of government.

    On the News of the World shutting down, its rather sad considering they've had a few stings ver time even if they're not to my taste as well as it being a historic paper (over 160 years old) - a clever move by Murdoch however, selling the brand name would have meant he'd have lost the bulk of his readership whilst keeping the brand name would have meant a dented readership with other readers going elsewhere - by closing and reopening under another name, he'll be able to retain the bulk of his readership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    In a way i'm in agreement, however people usually leave out the fact that the biggest monopoly in our media system is the BBC itself and not the Murdoch Empire which only owns two or three papers and BSkyB.
    The BBC is supposedly neutral; is that so?

    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
    I'm no big fan of Murdoch anyway seeing we he helped both Labour and the Conservative and Unionist Party get into office over the past decade instead of supporting a genuine right-wing party.
    You hate Murdoch because he doesn't support "a genuine right-wing party", i.e. UKIP? Do you hate the majority of the population due to their political views :rolleyes:?

    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
    The media should be unregulated including buyouts, if people do not wish to read certain views then they do not have to (as sales figures show that right-wing papers vastly outsell those on the left). At the same time however, all monopolies should be abolished, and monopolies only exist because of government.
    Yeah, good luck with that one. The economy simply wouldn't tick without a monopoly. Even if people cared about what view they read they did, then they'd buy something like the Independent. Newspapers are indepdent companies and you're suggesting monopolies should be abolished, which is quite odd considering you preach about the freedom of saying what you like, how you like. The newspapers are doing exactly that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathew View Post
    The BBC is supposedly neutral; is that so?
    Nope.

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    You hate Murdoch because he doesn't support "a genuine right-wing party", i.e. UKIP? Do you hate the majority of the population due to their political views :rolleyes:?
    Who said hate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew
    Yeah, good luck with that one. The economy simply wouldn't tick without a monopoly. Even if people cared about what view they read they did, then they'd buy something like the Independent. Newspapers are indepdent companies and you're suggesting monopolies should be abolished, which is quite odd considering you preach about the freedom of saying what you like, how you like. The newspapers are doing exactly that.
    I didn't say by force, most monopolies are held in place by government itself (ie. government regulations making it too expensive to set up a rival newspaper to challenge the Murdoch press). Also, an economy with monopoly is far better - we excel through competition.

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    Have a friend who worked for the NOTW and he told me that he and colleagues think that has been in prep for months. The NOTW found an easy way to let everyone go without a chance of facing legal action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misawa View Post
    Have a friend who worked for the NOTW and he told me that he and colleagues think that has been in prep for months. The NOTW found an easy way to let everyone go without a chance of facing legal action.
    Agreed and it will be back on the shelves as Sun on Sunday. Cynical mood. Also theories that it is a way of get rid of the computers etc before a Judge is appointed for the inquiry. Don't like the man but he is very smart and business savvy.

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    It's all for the best, i mean what do they expect after what they did! I heard the police may be involved in the hacking process etc. :/

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