Government to enact gay 'marriage' by 2015

[Technologic]

Or any institution for that matter.

But we all know it will be forced upon organisations who conduct marriages.

Well if it has to be forced, so be it.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well if it has to be forced, so be it.

What right do homosexuals, or the state, have to enforce views upon organisations?

Remove the government out of the institution of marriage entirely.

[Technologic]

What right do homosexuals, or the state, have to enforce views upon organisations?

Remove the government out of the institution of marriage entirely.

What right do religions, or the state, have to deny people marriage?

[FlyingJesus]

What right do religions, or the state, have to deny people marriage?

Quite a lot of protective right if you've ever looked into how much paperwork there is involved

[-:Undertaker:-]

What right do religions, or the state, have to deny people marriage?

Because marriage is based in religion, and the state has a 'right' to deny gay marriage based on the fact it denies many other things including incest marriage/marriage between objects and humans and so forth. I believe the state shouldn't have any right to define marriage, therefore I would remove it from marriage completely but I also reject its wish to define gay 'marriage' for me.

A religious insitution/an organisation has every right in a free society to deny you service.

[Wig44.]

Two responsible parents, one male and one female (typically married) represent the traditional family that produce a stable environment for children growing up, producing more stable children. Marriage really has little to do with the nuclear family. Marriage is just a tradition, the reason our society is failing is not because people aren't getting married, it's because people get divorced. Seperation is the problem, I do not for a second believe marriage is anything but an old tradition and has no real bearing on the upbringing of a child.

So go ahead and allow gay marriage, the problem is not the dilution of marriage, it is the tendency for children to be brought up by single parents or parents who split up before the child leaves home.

[Ardemax]

Society is falling part because of LOOOOAAAADSSS of things.

Divorce becoming easier and getting a civil partnership easier are just some small thing.

Also the divorce rate is slowing down, if I remember correctly...

[GommeInc]

As long as it's not rammed down the throats of everyone causing more inequality, then I have no problem with it. Personally I'd rather see the abolishment of the Equality Act 2010 - that piece of inequality should never of been made law, it gives people who want to be more equal in society more rights than Mr and Mrs. Bloggs when equality should be about equal rights, not more rights to create a fake air of equality.

I can't wait to see the court cases between churches and gay couples, about how the church does not want a gay couple to be married within its walls. Churches are strictly religious places and if the people of the church say no it should mean no. But that's just pessimism and assuming homosexuals will start crying wolf because they're not getting their own way

As for gay marriage, I don't see the point of it. Marriage is fast losing its traditional roots. Civil partnerships are what most marriages are about these days - easily broken, not that strict and between two people who love each other and not necessarily in the eyes of God or a society.

Society is falling part because of LOOOOAAAADSSS of things.

Divorce becoming easier and getting a civil partnership easier are just some small thing.

Also the divorce rate is slowing down, if I remember correctly...

Ooo, may have to look that up I studied nuclear families and divorce/marriage not so long ago. If its slowing down then it would be interesting to speculate on why that's happening Any news on what's the cause? I presume it's because the effort put into marriage is not worth it when you do not need to prove you love someone with a ceremony.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Ooo, may have to look that up I studied nuclear families and divorce/marriage not so long ago. If its slowing down then it would be interesting to speculate on why that's happening Any news on what's the cause? I presume it's because the effort put into marriage is not worth it when you do not need to prove you love someone with a ceremony.

Because in the 1960s, we decided, or our politicians decided, that we would turn our backs on the Church of England, our beliefs and morality, of which the void would be filled with celebrity worshiping, the pagan-like cult of football and the state itself. The late 1960s relaxation of divorce laws played a huge part in this breakdown of which the useless Conservative Party failed to do the conservative thing and reverse these changes.

All of these factors have led to the problems we see today, gay 'marriage' being another blow to the married family. If your interested in the topic (having studied it) i'd recommend a read of The Abolition of Britain by Peter Hitchens [above])

[Ardemax]

Ooo, may have to look that up I studied nuclear families and divorce/marriage not so long ago. If its slowing down then it would be interesting to speculate on why that's happening Any news on what's the cause? I presume it's because the effort put into marriage is not worth it when you do not need to prove you love someone with a ceremony.

Some would say that since divorce has gotten a lot easier, a lot of people tried to get one all at once. Imagine if a married couple wanted to split, but couldn't and had to wait until such a date to do it. Repeat this by blah amount and that causes the sudden increase in the divorce rates. Then, as time goes by, there is less need for more people to get divorced, and, as more people get civil partnerships, the number goes down even more.

That's just my thoughts