Mod Warnings/edits

[scottish]

My post and the above post asking a question are relating to the specific items in the thread and about their value.

The third post says 'omg i wish i was on to take advantage of this bug' or something along those lines, nothing to do with the items for sale/the value of said items.

[Eoin247]

From what i can see these days mods aren't that strict on people going off topic or doing a few pointless posts anymore. At least in a few forum sections that is the case. I think maybe , if anything, maybe a more constant consistency is all that's needed.

[Mark]

I think it's a daft rule anyway. We should be encouraging posting, not restricting what they can and can't post. Let's take a look at that thread: Sinsinaty and scottish were having a perfectly good discussion which was related to the thread. Warning them for contributing to this forum's post count is absurd.

I totally agree with this. If it's on topic, it should be allowed.

[Jordan]

I think it's a daft rule anyway. We should be encouraging posting, not restricting what they can and can't post. Let's take a look at that thread: Sinsinaty and scottish were having a perfectly good discussion which was related to the thread. Warning them for contributing to this forum's post count is absurd.

I totally agree with this. If it's on topic, it should be allowed.

Trading forums are for discussing trading. Anything about Trading and Furniture is for discussing pricing etc... It makes it very confusing when 2 topics are being discussed. It's absolutely fine how it's been dealt with in my opinion.

[Mathew]

Trading forums are for discussing trading. Anything about Trading and Furniture is for discussing pricing etc... It makes it very confusing when 2 topics are being discussed. It's absolutely fine how it's been dealt with in my opinion.

Discussions should be able to flow in whichever direction they please. You don't get boundaries for discussions in real life, so I don't think it should be any different here. Obviously if you start analysing the extent to which unicorns are oppressed creatures, then it's worthy of a warning - but topics which follow the general gist of a thread should be fine. They're doing you a favour by making a post in the first place. Naturally, the moderator's discretion is final and you lot would probably continue regardless!

[Catzsy]

Discussions should be able to flow in whichever direction they please. You don't get boundaries for discussions in real life, so I don't think it should be any different here. Obviously if you start analysing the extent to which unicorns are oppressed creatures, then it's worthy of a warning - but topics which follow the general gist of a thread should be fine. They're doing you a favour by making a post in the first place. Naturally, the moderator's discretion is final and you lot would probably continue regardless!

It is not like that at all. In normal circumstances and in normal forums what you say is correct and threads can evolve into different areas as far as they are constructive. There are though, also, forums with 'special rules' such as Graphics, Trading, Debate and the Papoy thread where it has been felt necessary to be a bit stricter. As far as trading is concerned they are not 'discussion' threads they are for buying and selling items and that is is their sole purpose and it is for the benefit of the OP that they are not invaded with a discussion that would more suit 'Anything about Furni'. I think people are getting mixed up between the main rules and the special rules There are no warnings for breaking of forum specific rules in any event they are just edits and pms. They do not lead onto warnings or infractions but could lead to a ban from that section for a period if the member continually breaks them.

They're doing you a favour by making a post in the first place.

How do you come to this conclusion? This is baffling. LOL

Naturally, the moderator's discretion is final and you lot would probably continue regardless!

I have to say this comment seems a bit unlike you but 'us lot' moderate to the rules we do not make things up as we go along. You know there have always been rules I don't agree with but as a mod I have to moderate to them because it is my job to do so regardless of my personal feeling but it is impossible for the management to please everyone all the time including moderators. We can't just pick and choose what we moderate because perhaps personally we don't agree with the actual rule. That would lead to unfairness and inconsistency in itself.

[Mathew]

It is not like that at all. In normal circumstances and in normal forums what you say is correct and threads can evolve into different areas as far as they are constructive. There are though, also, forums with 'special rules' such as Graphics, Trading, Debate and the Papoy thread where it has been felt necessary to be a bit stricter. As far as trading is concerned they are not 'discussion' threads they are for buying and selling items and that is is their sole purpose and it is for the benefit of the OP that they are not invaded with a discussion that would more suit 'Anything about Furni'. I think people are getting mixed up between the main rules and the special rules There are no warnings for breaking of forum specific rules in any event they are just edits and pms. They do not lead onto warnings or infractions but could lead to a ban from that section for a period if the member continually breaks them.

Whilst I understand the difference between specific and whole, as I've said - I think the discussion should be allowed to flow. Someone was enquiring about the value of the item, and someone else replied with the information. Surely this is the discussion that we should be promoting, not covering up. I highly doubt Sinsinaty was going to create a whole new thread simply to ask why they'd reduced in price, when he could just as well enquire in a thread which is related to the topic..

I also daresay that people are unaware of this rule anyway. Bolt's announcement in that forum regarding Varnius' Trade City is more prominent than the rule thread.

How do you come to this conclusion? This is baffling. LOL

If you've got new members taking the time to post and engage in a discussion on your site, I don't think it's appropriate to PM over something so trivial. The post would have been legitimate elsewhere.

I have to say this comment seems a bit unlike you but 'us lot' moderate to the rules we do not make things up as we go along. You know there have always been rules I don't agree with but as a mod I have to moderate to them because it is my job to do so regardless of my personal feeling but it is impossible for the management to please everyone all the time including moderators. We can't just pick and choose what we moderate because perhaps personally we don't agree with the actual rule. That would lead to unfairness and inconsistency in itself.

Ha, it was meant tounge-in-cheek hence the "".

[scottish]

Commenting in the trading section

Please remember that commenting in the trading section is only permitted if it is a question and has relevance to the topic.

Asking why the members / the general price of said item has dropped so low is relevant to the topic.

If I started a thread 'Selling a throne - 30 Credits', I'm sure some people would ask why I'm selling it for such a low price. It's relevant to the thread so it is permitted by the rule.

If you wish to change the rule to

Commenting in the trading section

Please remember that commenting in the trading section is only permitted if it is a question is related to buying or selling an item.

Using that would prevent any discussion other than those based around buying or selling of the items that the thread was created for.

However as it stands you're allowed to post as long as it's a question relevant to the topic

Also from what I see you constantly keep going on about 'better suited in anything about trading and furni' then why don't you move the posts to anything about trading and furni?

Surely that would seem more logical as for example when two people make a post on the same topic, you don't tell them not to post, you simply merge it.

Same thing can be done here but opposite way, if they shouldn't be commenting in the trading forum (if it's not related to buying an item, selling an item, or any question relevant to the thread) instead of telling them please don't post, simply move their post to anything about trading and furni?

[Catzsy]

Asking why the members / the general price of said item has dropped so low is relevant to the topic.

If I started a thread 'Selling a throne - 30 Credits', I'm sure some people would ask why I'm selling it for such a low price. It's relevant to the thread so it is permitted by the rule.

If you wish to change the rule to



Using that would prevent any discussion other than those based around buying or selling of the items that the thread was created for.

However as it stands you're allowed to post as long as it's a question relevant to the topic

Also from what I see you constantly keep going on about 'better suited in anything about trading and furni' then why don't you move the posts to anything about trading and furni?

Surely that would seem more logical as for example when two people make a post on the same topic, you don't tell them not to post, you simply merge it.

Same thing can be done here but opposite way, if they shouldn't be commenting in the trading forum (if it's not related to buying an item, selling an item, or any question relevant to the thread) instead of telling them please don't post, simply move their post to anything about trading and furni?

I think your wording of the rule does make some makes sense tbh but we would not move a post to' anything about trading and furni' as:

1. It may not make sense there as it could well be out of context.

2. How would we know if the member wanted to post a thread about it?

On a final note to stop repeating myself like a ground down record you will notice that all the posts not edited in that thread all have something to do with the actual trade. The conflict here lies in the word 'topic'. My view is that the topic of the thread is the trading not the item itself.

[scottish]

I think your wording of the rule does make some makes sense tbh but we would not move a post to' anything about trading and furni' as:

1. It may not make sense there as it could well be out of context.

2. How would we know if the member wanted to post a thread about it?

On a final note to stop repeating myself like a ground down record you will notice that all the posts not edited in that thread all have something to do with the actual trade. The conflict here lies in the word 'topic'. My view is that the topic of the thread is the trading not the item itself.

When moving it you (mods) would be responsible for naming the thread, so could make it appropriate

If a member posted a question in the thread, then logic dictates that they want that question answered, so whether its answered in said thread or moved to a new thread wouldn't make a difference, as long as they get the reply.

For example if you were to move sinsinaty's post, you could put the thread title as something along the lines of 'Freeze Furniture' and the question would make sense. Imho that would be better than telling someone not to post in a section.

It's like if someone posts a thread in the wrong section, you move the thread, you don't say 'hey don't post that here'