Anyone know of any better laptops for this price?

[Nemo]

This.

I've never bothered with laptop coolers and I've never had a problem too.

Could yall recommend a specific one? I'm a complete ****** with this kind of thing.

[Chippiewill]

With HP you want either:
http://h40059.www4.hp.com/uk/homelap...erience=direct
or
http://h40059.www4.hp.com/uk/homelap...erience=direct

With Dell you want either:
http://configure.euro.dell.com/dells...l502x-proc-mod
or
http://configure.euro.dell.com/dells...iron-15r-n5110

(You'll want to spec the dell ones up a little probably)

You don't need a laptop cooler unless it's crap build quality. I personally have a laptop platform thingy so it doesn't roast my balls / overheat when I've got it on my bed but an extra fan it just going to add noise, not performance.

[N!ck]

http://www.dell.co.uk/outlet - Dells in refurbished, nearly new cond. at good prices.

Look at XPS 15 or 17 in the performance laptops section.

[Stephen!]

I agree with the outlet. My dad has purchased two laptops from there and both came brand new in sealed packaging. The majority of stock in the outlet are just cancelled orders.