Why aren't we told?

[Grig]

I am of course talking about bans, temp bans, firings etc. In my school when somebody is expelled or suspended it is announced who, why and for how long on the announcement board, why not do the same on the forum? I can't see any reason why we aren't just told straight out, and instead rumours (sometimes horribly untrue) have to fly around the forum.

This never happened in my school, nor would I want to start demoralizing people by stating embarrassing things like that. The system is fine as it is and there is really no need to go out there and start playing the name and shame game. In the long-run this would cause more slating and negativity towards individual users on the forum as well.

Most people find out anyway as it is :p. The system works on discretion on whether a dismissal is or isn't in the persons control. I actually do think quite a few people were getting a bit feisty of recent dismissals and as it is the forum is more open than it has been in the past. Threads shouldn't be closed because there is nothing like healthy and constructive discussion, as long as they abide by the rules.

[GommeInc]

Depends on the situation, but from recent discussions with management the simple answer to this question is: It does not concern you. It's this melancholy dogma and belief that seems to be set in stone and is therefore unquestionable. Despite everyone knowing that the truth will out, as Shakespeare well put it - that the reasons for any bans, firing etc. will eventually be told to or found out by the masses.

I'm not entirely sure why embarassment is dragged up. It's the internet, why be so serious? If my account was compromised I'd probably tell people. Nothing serious has ever happened to Habbox, nothing a back-up can't solve. It's not like someone has set fire to an imaginary Habbox Headquarters, killed a few members and then gone on to commit suicide. Stop pretending it's a conglomerate and treat it like a fansite forum - Organised, yet community driven. Nothing is worse than a "them and us" mentality.

That said, I've been told of very serious things that have happened here, and those things are best kept secret as they are of a legal issue (though it wouldn't surprise me they're in the public domain anyway)

[beth]

i don't know what schools you people went to but our school would never release information like that to other pupils. why does anyone else have the right to know what's going on unless yr directly involved? just because you WANT to know, you don't NEED to know.

things like server problems, i agree should be more open. but firing/hiring/banning is none of anyone elses business apart from the person who is banned and the person that banned them.

[GommeInc]

things like server problems, i agree should be more open. but firing/hiring/banning is none of anyone elses business apart from the person who is banned and the person that banned them.

The speculation itself causes more damage, as it's left down to the imagination of the users that bicker amongst themselves It's all in the presentation. If people shouldn't be told, be honest and say they shouldn't and why e.g. it's not fair for the user in question. In recent years when things like this have cropped up, the ones who hold the answers have made situations worse by telling users to shut up, which never works in real life so it certainly won't work online.

[beth]

if people want to know so badly they can go and ask the person who was fired/hired/banned and if they don't want to answer, then to be fair the other person should drop it. what do they get out of knowing if they're not involved?

[GoldenMerc]

I think things like sever should have been posted, not being fired etc

[Catzsy]

The speculation itself causes more damage, as it's left down to the imagination of the users that bicker amongst themselves It's all in the presentation. If people shouldn't be told, be honest and say they shouldn't and why e.g. it's not fair for the user in question. In recent years when things like this have cropped up, the ones who hold the answers have made situations worse by telling users to shut up, which never works in real life so it certainly won't work online.

Gossip and speculation make Habbox livelier: P I cannot see though that as it is a private matter between the user and Habbox while it should make it public by basically putting the user ' in the stocks'. Nobody has come up with any real reason why it is should be made public.

[GoldenMerc]

But they could put a stop to gossip i guess...

[Matthew.]

if people want to know so badly they can go and ask the person who was fired/hired/banned and if they don't want to answer, then to be fair the other person should drop it. what do they get out of knowing if they're not involved?

I agree with this, if the person wants to publicly say why they got fired or banned leave it up to them. I'm sure some people wouldn't like their firing reason to be known as some can just give you a bad reputation and make others think differently about you.

Depending on the ban reason though, like if it's a safety ban or something, I would agree on it being announced so that others can take action if they recently spoke to them on MSN or something to avoid them getting hacked also!

[GoldenMerc]

Yeh but what if someone who had rights to habbox did, say damage such as a keylog. would you release they did it?