Under moderation in graphics., rules anyone?

[scott]

I think it would make the Graphics forum dead if we introduced a rule that people have to always post constructive criticism. I used to do some graphics design work for Habbox but I wouldn't go into a thread in the graphics forum and constantly scrutinize someone's work. Personally if I posted some of my work I'd much rather a reply from someone saying that they liked my work and liked what I had made than just nobody replying at all. Maybe that's just me though :p

[FlyingJesus]

None of those posts were pointless :/ They were all in context and served a purpose - he liked the alts. You're suggesting that members should be more descriptive when making posts, and suggesting all members should be strong, art critics

In threads that specifically ask for CC then yes, those members who reply ought to have enough knowledge of the area to serve as an art critic. Someone with no graphical knowledge posting "WOW THAT'S GOOD!" when an image is either obviously flawed or requiring actual creative input is not contributing to the thread in any way, just like if I went into a thread in the vehicles area that shows a customised engine system and asks for any suggestions but instead I just wrote "I LIKE THE PAINT"

For threads that do just ask "do you like it/what do you think" etc it's fine, but if a thread is specifically made to serve a purpose then people not posting to that purpose are quite literally posting off-topic and therefore pointlessly

[GommeInc]

I think it would make the Graphics forum dead if we introduced a rule that people have to always post constructive criticism. I used to do some graphics design work for Habbox but I wouldn't go into a thread in the graphics forum and constantly scrutinize someone's work. Personally if I posted some of my work I'd much rather a reply from someone saying that they liked my work and liked what I had made than just nobody replying at all. Maybe that's just me though :p

Agreed. Back when I bothered making alts a quick comment about whether they liked it or not was enough. In fact, there was never really any bad comments, just positive criticisms and the odd "It's a great alt Gomme " replies were enough. You shouldn't expect everyone to become a critic posting why they like or dislike it. You wouldn't walk into a gallery and hear everyone giving a full sheet explanation on their thoughts, so you shouldn't expect it online. It's a forum to socialise and get away from work.

In threads that specifically ask for CC then yes, those members who reply ought to have enough knowledge of the area to serve as an art critic. Someone with no graphical knowledge posting "WOW THAT'S GOOD!" when an image is either obviously flawed or requiring actual creative input is not contributing to the thread in any way, just like if I went into a thread in the vehicles area that shows a customised engine system and asks for any suggestions but instead I just wrote "I LIKE THE PAINT"

For threads that do just ask "do you like it/what do you think" etc it's fine, but if a thread is specifically made to serve a purpose then people not posting to that purpose are quite literally posting off-topic and therefore pointlessly

You'd get harassed by the thread creator or members of the thread who read the fine print. It's still contributing whether or not they write out a critique. It would have a point and would still be on-topic, you of all people should know the meanings of the two.

Anything is on-topic if there is any part of the post which relates to the topic, therefore if a picture of a car with its bonnet open shows paint colour then it is on-topic, because it is referencing something within the topic. As for point, well, anything that contributes whether negatively ("the engine sucks") or positively ("the engine is amazing!") is a point.

[FlyingJesus]

But no-one's saying this should apply to ALL threads, only ones where criticism/assistance is specifically asked for. For the majority of threads this isn't the case as (like you say) people are often happy enough to just see that someone appreciates their work

[GommeInc]

But no-one's saying this should apply to ALL threads, only ones where criticism/assistance is specifically asked for. For the majority of threads this isn't the case as (like you say) people are often happy enough to just see that someone appreciates their work

Then the OP or members should ask the member who just said "That's amazing " to explain why they said that, to promote a discussion. Hardly difficult Better to promote discussion than to warn people for contributing to the forum, and upsetting one thread creator who is only out to benefit himself and be miserable by not asking members who say very little to explain their thoughts.

[FlyingJesus]

By that logic absolutely no posts should ever be edited for being pointless/not contributing to the topic and instead we should just ask nicely for people to elaborate on the off-chance that they will do so

[GommeInc]

By that logic absolutely no posts should ever be edited for being pointless/not contributing to the topic and instead we should just ask nicely for people to elaborate on the off-chance that they will do so

Depends if you follow the actual meaning of pointless and off-topic posting, or this weird definition that seems to be circulating around. In most of the forums, like the debate forum or current affairs, short answers which really are biting at the heels of meaningful, on-topic posts will still be edited, but for threads where you're sharing something you have made or bought then it is to be expected that people will make short and sweet comments about how good something is. Take a compliment, rather than have them attacked by red writing.

[FlyingJesus]

There is absolutely no difference between writing a post in a debate thread that doesn't address the debate question, writing a post in tech help thread that doesn't give tech advice, and writing a post in a constructive criticism request thread that doesn't give any constructive criticism

[GommeInc]

There is absolutely no difference between writing a post in a debate thread that doesn't address the debate question, writing a post in tech help thread that doesn't give tech advice, and writing a post in a constructive criticism request thread that doesn't give any constructive criticism

There is, have you not used the forums? The debate forum rarely has one worded, short posts (mainly because people see the word "debate" and pick up on the purpose of the forum), and when people post in the tech forums asking for advice they tend to only include a wall of text asking for advice rather than a picture people can refer to, therefore you tend to always get helpful comments. Members aren't that brain dead, give them some credit

If you're posting an alt in the alterations forum, you're going to get quick comments about an alt you have made - it's still contributing to the forum and in some ways the alt, unless you're assuming the thread creator knows it is good? Again, take a compliment and ask if you really must know what they think, from my experience people tend to reply back, or you can send them a VM (which I have done on occasion). You're under-rating the members here to quite an extreme

[FlyingJesus]

I don't think you understand the notion of some threads having specific topics and purposes. Posts that do not fulfill those are pointless posts, regardless of how nice they're being