Dodos and Boris

[xxMATTGxx]

The London Olympics failed. They gave away tickets for the teams and lots of people, and they just didn't turn up. They should have kept those tickets and sold them to turists because that's why they went to London. Now there are people wanting tickets, and the seats are empty.

The Olympics didn't fail, what a silly thing to say. You do realise in the early days of the Olympics in regards of tickets loads of them were put back on sale and then they were sold out within a couple of hours? Those tickets not being filled weren't down to the public that was due to big arse companies, media and the Olympic family.

There was hardly any issues with the Olympic games and London did a fantastic job and held some amazing events. If you think it failed then you must have been reading and watching the wrong event.

[LiquidLuck.]

I have to disagree completely with "the London Olympics failed". On what do you base that on? Yes there were empty seats, but that was only for the first few days. Every event apart from football was sold out (I think) which is an Olympic first and there have been more tickets sold for the Paralympics than ever before. Hardly "failing" in that sense. Or maybe you're talking about our medal tally? Oh no, we did quite well there too. How about the impact of the Olympics on our society? Early signs are showing that sports participation rates are increasing and the government has pledged to put more money into sports in the UK. Tourism increased (obviously) throughout the Olympic period helping the local London economy. Aside from being over-budget (by quite a fair margin, I'll admit) I don't think the Olympics "failed" at all and hopefully this will be unlike any other country in that the legacy will continue on.

It wasn't ''sold out''. They had no more tickets to sell because they gave most of them away to the teams that then didn't use them. I never talked about the Paralympics, because I have to agree they did an awesome job with that. I went to London in September last year and they were already telling everyone about it, and making sure everyone knew about it. David Cameron and Boris even had a tenis match, which was pretty cool. I didn't even mention your medals, so you're really just wanting to talk.. The UK did pretty well about the medals, that was never the point. I can't even bother with reading the rest of it, tbh, so to clear what I meant is that they tried to do better than in 2008 in China, trying to give tickets free so people could come and everyone could be filled, and it failed badly, like I said in my first comment. Also they did one of the worse failures ever, about the North Korea flag.. that was shameful.

[xxMATTGxx]

It wasn't ''sold out''. They had no more tickets to sell because they gave most of them away to the teams that then didn't use them. I never talked about the Paralympics, because I have to agree they did an awesome job with that. I went to London in September last year and they were already telling everyone about it, and making sure everyone knew about it. David Cameron and Boris even had a tenis match, which was pretty cool. I didn't even mention your medals, so you're really just wanting to talk.. The UK did pretty well about the medals, that was never the point. I can't even bother with reading the rest of it, tbh, so to clear what I meant is that they tried to do better than in 2008 in China, trying to give tickets free so people could come and everyone could be filled, and it failed badly, like I said in my first comment. Also they did one of the worse failures ever, about the North Korea flag.. that was shameful.

I don't think you have read much about this have you? At the start of the Olympics there was comments about empty seats at events - After a few discussions they found out who the empty seats belong too and sorted it all out. There was loads more tickets put back onto sale which people did buy in a matter of hours. For you to say London 2012 failed over that is a silly thing to say because it didn't fail at all. It was a very successful Olympic games.

If you also think they failed because of the flag mistake - Yeah it was a mistake and was an embarrassing one for us but did it happen again? No it didn't. It was one of the early events of the games and was never mentioned since. People got over it and enjoyed the games.

[Kardan]

How anyone can say that the Olympics failed, I don't know. And the Olympics is bound to make a loss purely because of how much it cost, but does it really matter?

[-:Undertaker:-]

How anyone can say that the Olympics failed, I don't know. And the Olympics is bound to make a loss purely because of how much it cost, but does it really matter?

When we're up to our eyeballs in debt it does matter yes, and i'm sure Greece dismissed the same question back in 2004 in very much the same manner.

[Ardemax]

It wasn't ''sold out''. They had no more tickets to sell because they gave most of them away to the teams that then didn't use them. I never talked about the Paralympics, because I have to agree they did an awesome job with that. I went to London in September last year and they were already telling everyone about it, and making sure everyone knew about it. David Cameron and Boris even had a tenis match, which was pretty cool. I didn't even mention your medals, so you're really just wanting to talk.. The UK did pretty well about the medals, that was never the point. I can't even bother with reading the rest of it, tbh, so to clear what I meant is that they tried to do better than in 2008 in China, trying to give tickets free so people could come and everyone could be filled, and it failed badly, like I said in my first comment. Also they did one of the worse failures ever, about the North Korea flag.. that was shameful.

An argument/debate never starts well when in reply to my post you say "I can't even bother with reading the rest of it". So you seem to have missed one or two points of mine, but that's ok.

I chuckled slightly when you said the UK tried to do better than China and failed because firstly you can't really do "better" in terms of hosting the games, eg. you either have a football pitch for football or you don't host it. I'm going to assume you're on about the opening/closing ceremonies and before you say how incredible China's ones were I'll agree with you, they were spectacular. Our opening/closing ceremonies were centered around UK history and from a UK perspective they were awesome. They weren't going for the all-out wow-factor like China, so I find it hard to compare the two really.

"Also they did one of the worse failures ever, about the North Korea flag.. that was shameful." Yeah it was a mistake, sorry perfection was not guaranteed. I was also really tempted here to make a reference to the Portuguese police, but I'll resist.

tl;dr: don't start a debate without bothering to read replies thanks. also go uk!!!!!!!!!!!!!