Homophobic & Racist

[Cerys]

Well no one is but they are at my school, I'm going off what I know. I can't do any better then that.

I know.. but it's like saying that at my school all the people who drink redbull actually have wings, but it's not the same for the rest of the worldwide population. It only applies to my school, if you see what I mean.

[Aiden]

I know.. but it's like saying that at my school all the people who drink redbull actually have wings, but it's not the same for the rest of the worldwide population. It only applies to my school, if you see what I mean.

Not really but you must agree, when have you ever heard of a black pupil being beat up? Not collage or uni but school. Then think when have you heard of a transgender or gay pupil being bullied and hurt?

[Cerys]

Not really but you must agree, when have you ever heard of a black pupil being beat up? Not collage or uni but school. Then think when have you heard of a transgender or gay pupil being bullied and hurt?

I've seen both of these things occuring. Like I said before, I think they're both as bad as eachother as people are still being hurt and upset, no matter what their sexuality or colour is.

[Aiden]

I've seen both of these things occuring. Like I said before, I think they're both as bad as eachother as people are still being hurt and upset, no matter what their sexuality or colour is.

Do you feel an equal amount of care is put into both? I feel that racism is taken more seriously.

[FlyingJesus]

Well when racism does happen at my school it is taken really seriously because the black people in my school are silly. I'm not racist, I just don't like the fact they take things so far. I will show you an example:

In my geography class the teacher told this boy (Named Elias) to shut up and she got superseded for 1 week just because his mum and dad came in to school. But what really gets me is that he's not bothered. Unlike the Gay people, they get called then cut themselves.

I know everyone will be like they just want attention but being called and pushed around does hurt.

I think you're totally misunderstanding what homophobia and racism actually are. Telling a kid to shut up isn't racist, but the teacher may have been reprimanded for victimising the guy. Also you're being racist and homophobic yourself by suggesting that no-one who's black actually cares about racism and that all the gay kids self harm

Imo - It's still discriminating (if thats the right word) against an individual/group, so they're equally as bad.

The only difference is is that being coloured isn't a choice. You're forced to be like that whether you like it or not, unless your name is michael jackson. Whereas being homosexual is a choice that you make somewhere down the life.
If you insult someone because of these things, it's still insulting and being rude. Just as bad.

Your main point is right ie: they both bad things but being gay is not a choice. It can be argued that it's down to the culmination of circumstances throughout one's life (which is what I and most people with an education believe) but that is nothing to do with choice - just like one doesn't actively choose to prefer football to rugby or whatever

Well at my school the fastest and strongest are Black.

Perhaps they've had better physical training than you? And regardless, using physical strength to suggest that certain schoolchildren can cope with -isms better is simply ridiculous. Emotional and physical strength are not linked

Not really but you must agree, when have you ever heard of a black pupil being beat up? Not collage or uni but school. Then think when have you heard of a transgender or gay pupil being bullied and hurt?

Coming from a place where I literally had ONE black guy in my entire high school (out of around 800-900 kids at the time) even I can say that I have heard of a black pupil being attacked. Your singular experiences do not overwrite entire cultural attitudes

[Aiden]

I think you're totally misunderstanding what homophobia and racism actually are. Telling a kid to shut up isn't racist, but the teacher may have been reprimanded for victimising the guy. Also you're being racist and homophobic yourself by suggesting that no-one who's black actually cares about racism and that all the gay kids self harm



Your main point is right ie: they both bad things but being gay is not a choice. It can be argued that it's down to the culmination of circumstances throughout one's life (which is what I and most people with an education believe) but that is nothing to do with choice - just like one doesn't actively choose to prefer football to rugby or whatever



Perhaps they've had better physical training than you? And regardless, using physical strength to suggest that certain schoolchildren can cope with -isms better is simply ridiculous. Emotional and physical strength are not linked



Coming from a place where I literally had ONE black guy in my entire high school (out of around 800-900 kids at the time) even I can say that I have heard of a black pupil being attacked. Your singular experiences do not overwrite entire cultural attitudes

Okay. I didn't say ALL self harm, some do. Once again I'm going off my own experiences. I can't debate or talk about things I don't see. Your most probably older then me and live in the REAL world so you know more. :/

[Cerys]

Your main point is right ie: they both bad things but being gay is not a choice. It can be argued that it's down to the culmination of circumstances throughout one's life (which is what I and most people with an education believe) but that is nothing to do with choice - just like one doesn't actively choose to prefer football to rugby or whatever

Haha I think you're saying I don't have an education, aren't you?

By choice I meant what you said really. The type of people they associate themselves with can be one factor, or from their parents choice: their upbringing.

[FlyingJesus]

Okay. I didn't say ALL self harm, some do. Once again I'm going off my own experiences. I can't debate or talk about things I don't see. Your most probably older then me and live in the REAL world so you know more. :/

If you can't debate or talk about things you don't see then you won't get very far. There are things known as research and logic which are very useful to employ before blindly making assumptions that demonise an entire race

Haha I think you're saying I don't have an education, aren't you?

By choice I meant what you said really. The type of people they associate themselves with can be one factor, or from their parents choice: their upbringing.

Oh it wasn't meant to look QUITE that harsh lol, I meant people with an education in that field, rather than in general

[Cerys]

Oh it wasn't meant to look QUITE that harsh lol, I meant people with an education in that field, rather than in general

Lol ;P
Yeah we don't really get taught about this subject alot in school soo.. they mainly say 'dont be raicist or homophobic'.

[MKR&*42]

Both as bad as each other yes, I wouldn't like to categorise types of discrimination on how harmful they are really. All types (inc. Homophobia and Racism) are equally emotionally damaging. I do agree that *from what I've heard* a lot of schools don't do anything about the issue tbh.

My school was very reluctant on severely punishing any people - the only thing that equalled permanent exclusion was selling drugs really. Homophobia/Racism is maybe 2 days exclusion and then allowed back to school, it's ridiculous.