Gun Control: Should civilians be allowed to possess firearms? [ENDS 30/12/2012]

[Adolphin]

If they want to sort out the gun problem, here's an idea; let the people WITH GUNS fight the people WITHOUT GUNS, and let's see who wins?

[FlyingJesus]

Wow you're right that's totally a good way to solve political issues

[GommeInc]

Wow you're right that's totally a good way to solve political issues

About as useful as letting all the rapists out to rape their victims again to prove a null point :/

It would make more sense just to have gun laws against the use of guns in a public place. They should only be used on your own private property or property you have permission to use them on (farm ranchers using their own guns on farms they are employed with, shooting ranges etc.). Then from such a law you can build self-defence laws, where you can protect yourself, others or your own property using a "fire arm" on your own property, perhaps adding property you have permission on but this would cause difficulties involving permissions and evidence in court. Then you also get the problem of transporting guns - would a car be seen as private property or because it's not static like a house it loses such a quality? Would a new law even solve gun problems? People already own automatics and the black market over in the US must be rife with (more) dangerous guns.

Perhaps we should be thankful we have no use for mass private gun ownership in the UK - it's less confusing

[FiftyCal]

Yes. They are trying to an assault rifle ban, which will spark a second revolution. Guns defend liberty from the tyranny (The government is corrupt). Look what happened to the jews, they were disarmed and millions got killed.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yes. They are trying to an assault rifle ban, which will spark a second revolution. Guns defend liberty from the tyranny (The government is corrupt). Look what happened to the jews, they were disarmed and millions got killed.

Nearly all tyrants have banned guns as soon as they swept into office because they know, and it's very simple, that a disarmed people are a people that can be enslaved. But somehow in the west we have this strange sort of soft headedness where people actually believe that just because we get to vote every 4 years for identical state-funded parties and that our leaders don't wear an army uniform and sport a silly moustache - that somehow we're becoming more free and will continue to be immune from tyranny.

How deluded they are.

[FiftyCal]

Nearly all tyrants have banned guns as soon as they swept into office because they know, and it's very simple, that a disarmed people are a people that can be enslaved. But somehow in the west we have this strange sort of soft headedness where people actually believe that just because we get to vote every 4 years for identical state-funded parties and that our leaders don't wear an army uniform and sport a silly moustache - that somehow we're becoming more free and will continue to be immune from tyranny.

How deluded they are.

That is just how peoples mindsets are. Things that are corrupt go into play slowly so it conditions people and give them a mindset that nothing wrong will happen with the current form of government (In the USA that is) Just the other day in Arkansas ( I think) The swat was flooded all over the streets and asking for peoples ID just for no reason, even if you were just walking your dog and you had to prove you were just walking your dog, or just talking a walk. I only wish that people would stand up for their rights and deny the ID check, but might of included an illegal detainment and nobody wants to deal with that, instead people want to do what is the easiest. People are slaves, and they don't see it this way.

[Oleh]

In all honesty, yes they should be allowed. But only after passing in-depth checks into mental health and a background check as well as a minimum age of 30 to own an automatic rifle, 25 to own a semi automatic rifle and 21 to own a semi automatic small caliber handgun, with electronic logs on who owns what as well as restrictions on amount of ammunition at any one point at 10 rounds, for any weapon, once the ammunition is expended the empty magazine is then brought to a store and refilled.

These are just my thoughts on how it could be controlled and not totally outlawed.

[FiftyCal]

In all honesty, yes they should be allowed. But only after passing in-depth checks into mental health and a background check as well as a minimum age of 30 to own an automatic rifle, 25 to own a semi automatic rifle and 21 to own a semi automatic small caliber handgun, with electronic logs on who owns what as well as restrictions on amount of ammunition at any one point at 10 rounds, for any weapon, once the ammunition is expended the empty magazine is then brought to a store and refilled.

These are just my thoughts on how it could be controlled and not totally outlawed.

These laws would only effect law abiding citizens. Criminals would still be able to get their hands on Pistol/Rifles and not follow any background checks if they had a friend that was completely clean in the background check and got it for them, and then destroyed the serial number so it wouldn't trace it back to the original owner.

[dirrty]

These laws would only effect law abiding citizens. Criminals would still be able to get their hands on Pistol/Rifles and not follow any background checks if they had a friend that was completely clean in the background check and got it for them, and then destroyed the serial number so it wouldn't trace it back to the original owner.

LMAO no ****. didn't the phrase 'law abiding citizen' give that away...

[FlyingJesus]

Theft laws only affect law abiding citizens, therefore everything should be up for grabs in a free-for-all

Driving laws only affect law abiding citizens, therefore children should drive

Medical laws only affect law abiding citizens, therefore everyone should be allowed to perform surgery