Russian plane crashes into road outside Moscow (VIDEO)

[Nige]

That's a defunct argument. You have more chance of getting killed in a car crash than on a plane!

Wasn't pointing it out to be an argument, I was just saying in general that nothing is every safe these days.

[Eric]

Thank god there were no passengers

[Grig]

Thank god there were no passengers

Yeh, I don't get why the company does that though. Waste of money running an empty plane back to their base. But this is very true, it could have been far worse.

Wasn't pointing it out to be an argument, I was just saying in general that nothing is every safe these days.

Just stay in bed !

[Nige]

Yeh, I don't get why the company does that though. Waste of money running an empty plane back to their base. But this is very true, it could have been far worse.



Just stay in bed !

Every Airline company does it, like you say it's a waste of full.

.. and it's 1.19 in the afternoon, I never stay in bed after 7am.

[Grig]

Every Airline company does it, like you say it's a waste of full.

.. and it's 1.19 in the afternoon, I never stay in bed after 7am.

You do realize I was not being literal... lol

And not every one, especially now where fuel prices have skyrocketed.

[xxMATTGxx]

Do not assume it's pilot error until a full investigation has been done. I know a certain person from the Russian side of things has already said that but I bet they forgot to mention that this specific aircraft type had an issue with breaks and reverse thrust this month also.

In terms of it having no passengers. There was more than the pilots on board but yes it wasn't a full on passenger flight. Airliners often ferry back their planes to airports they need them at - It's like diving buses to certain depots, trucks to certain warehouses and boats to certain ports.

[Grig]

Do not assume it's pilot error until a full investigation has been done. I know a certain person from the Russian side of things has already said that but I bet they forgot to mention that this specific aircraft type had an issue with breaks and reverse thrust this month also.

In terms of it having no passengers. There was more than the pilots on board but yes it wasn't a full on passenger flight. Airliners often ferry back their planes to airports they need them at - It's like diving buses to certain depots, trucks to certain warehouses and boats to certain ports.

It is a standard practice, but not an efficient one.

Also, the particular model of the plane is by no means dodgy, it was a good piece of engineering. No incidents in the past and they have been producing them since the 1980s. Although of course, like you say it is all speculation and there needs to be a thorough investigation.

[xxMATTGxx]

It is a standard practice, but not an efficient one.

Also, the particular model of the plane is by no means dodgy, it was a good piece of engineering. No incidents in the past and they have been producing them since the 1980s. Although of course, like you say it is all speculation and there needs to be a thorough investigation.

I never called it dodgy, I'm just aware that the aircraft type had issues with braking and reverse thrust earlier on this month and they asked the manufacturers for advice on the matter. It's not the same exact plane but it could be some what linked and a fault with the design of the aicraft. If it turns out to be that of course.

---------- Post added 30-12-2012 at 01:48 PM ----------

Just before the event happened (from what I am aware of):

[Grig]

I never called it dodgy, I'm just aware that the aircraft type had issues with braking and reverse thrust earlier on this month and they asked the manufacturers for advice on the matter. It's not the same exact plane but it could be some what linked and a fault with the design of the aicraft. If it turns out to be that of course.

Yeh the incidents are more associated with the company's older models. Would be interesting to find out, but that'll take quite a while.

Interestingly though, Russia has 3 times more air incidents that the average mean elsewhere!

[xxMATTGxx]

Yeh the incidents are more associated with the company's older models. Would be interesting to find out, but that'll take quite a while.

Interestingly though, Russia has 3 times more air incidents that the average mean elsewhere!

Not surprised by that fact. Mostly due to the safety regulations and the aircraft they have built during the many years. Although they are improving to match up with the standards you would find in aircraft built in the western countries.