No Justice in the Habbox Value System

[The Professor]

I absolutely totally agree with TU on this one. I could not see the maj or savomar, to name a few, rising at all, then they suddenly shot up by .5? And you claim its not rigged? The mocha even went up to .6 at a time, though it will ALWAYS be a .5 I DO beleive the values are rigged slightly, on the grounds that random rares suddenly shoot up/down.

[Smiddy]

Smiddy if some of the RVRs are away maybe you could open applications for more?

if people recieved the newsletter this week then they would know there is new places avaiable

Keith, If you do tell me who this person who [ i have a slight suspicion who it may be ] then i shall deal with it accordingly.
I also think 1 week may be a hasty to give a value, because then we would recieve word that we're slacking again, i feel 1 day is long enough to decde a value.
And if we want only the best RVR's then we have to let them get into the swing of things with a trial, then if they have accomplished enough progress during this trial, we shall keep them on.

Alex, That particular value [ Mocha ] was a mistake apparently, but the Reporter was dealt with accordingly.

[GommeInc]

Some people don't bother reading the Newsletter, it would be more advisable to just put an annoucement in the Announcements Forum because people would read it then, but I have to admit, Rare Value Reporters are hard to find.

[Smiddy]

Some people don't bother reading the Newsletter, it would be more advisable to just put an annoucement in the Announcements Forum because people would read it then, but I have to admit, Rare Value Reporters are hard to find.

Yes i am aware you were / maybe still are Rare Valuse manager for GIhabbo

And i've now provided a nice little Kick in my signature o.0

[GommeInc]

I gave up doing Rare Values and moved on to Rare Watch , mainly because it is more interesting to write about furni that how much it is actually worth.

[sierk]

I'm very happy with how the Rare Values pages are updated now. It's complete nonsense that we need to improve or anything like that, it's going very well, and that is why probably over 90% of people go by our values. All the values are very accurate.

Also there is no need to announce job openings I think, it clearly states on the Job Openings page that people who post good values are selected for a trial job. So applications are open all year long.

[Impactor]

I think the rare values are fine. Although, I hardly ever trade :p

[HolyWar]

I'm very happy with how the Rare Values pages are updated now. It's complete nonsense that we need to improve or anything like that, it's going very well, and that is why probably over 90% of people go by our values. All the values are very accurate.

Also there is no need to announce job openings I think, it clearly states on the Job Openings page that people who post good values are selected for a trial job. So applications are open all year long.

The reason that 90% of people use your values is based on the reputation that has been built over time. Habbox is a reference that most people are aware of and there is no disputing the fact that it's the most popular site for displaying rare values although it is not regarded as the most accurate.

Sierk, I don't mean to disrespect you as you're the owner of habbox but a statement of "It's complete nonsense that we need to improve anything" is hard to comprehend. There is always room for improvement and it's my opinion that it could be improved. I'm not directly suggesting that the values are rigged although I am suggesting that there is negligence, approximation and corruption in the rare values department. Yes, slowly the values have been getting better and that is only due to the RVR's input and has nothing to do with the upper management of Habbox.

Maybe someone would like to provide the full details of how they came to the conclusion of a rare values change in value when the next update takes place. Show the viewers of your site exactly how you came up with that value because I guarantee you that person is not doing it fairly and most likely see's 2 or 3 RVR's say that the Throne Sofa is now worth 4.2 and then it changes to 5 hcs. How are 2-3 peoples opinions changing the value of a rares prices? Why must you pass a "trial" in order for your input to be accepted? You must make a certain amount of posts in 1 week in order to maintain your status as an RVR when you should be happy to receive input from people for which they get nothing in return.

People can argue with me all they like saying " I don't know what I'm talking about " and that will be your opinion. When I was taking full advantage of the inconsistencies of Habbox values I was sometimes able to make 7-8 thrones in a day because your values were overpriced. I guess I knew nothing when I increased my worth from 12 thrones to around 200 thrones in a span of 2 months by fully utilizing the inconsistencies in the Habbox value listings.

All in all, what I'm really saying is that you need to implement math into your rare value calculations and you need to expand the circle of input you are receiving from people in order to make your values more accurate. When people do a test or a survery they ask 100-1,000,000 people for their opinon because they higher the number the more accurate the results are. Most updates on the Habbox rare page are based on the opinions of 2-3 people, how is that going to make a value accurate? Then Management disposes of users that they are in high demand of needing input from. I'm stating facts here and in order to argue with them you should fight me back with facts instead of opinions.

[Seacat]

Well you seem to have a lot to say, so why didn't you give all of your ideas to improve the Rare Value Department to Oggy or smiddy when you worked for them, I'm sure they would have been glad to hear them and it would have shown how much you are willing to contribute.

Instead you've decided to make a thread which criticizes people who put their trust in you to work for them and puts any other Manager off employing you in the future, I mean, what was to stop you becoming a RVR again in the future?

[HolyWar]

Well you seem to have a lot to say, so why didn't you give all of your ideas to improve the Rare Value Department to Oggy or smiddy when you worked for them, I'm sure they would have been glad to hear them and it would have shown how much you are willing to contribute.

Instead you've decided to make a thread which criticizes people who put their trust in you to work for them and puts any other Manager off employing you in the future, I mean, what was to stop you becoming a RVR again in the future?

Seacat, you make that statement as if you're hovering over my back watching what I am doing. How would you know wether or not I had made attempts to inform others of the inconsistencies in the values? This is something that I have been making known for quite some time and I was initially offered a position from Sierk based on my remarks regarding a "Broken stock market" type scenario.

I would no longer want to be an RVR in the future and believe me I am not bitter for being let go as there are many more complicated and trivial things in the world. I'm just voicing my opinion for anyone that wants to read it. If you play close attention to the statements I'm making you will see I am not criticizing individuals and I am only making remarks on how I feel the system is working.