Gay asylum seekers will be sent to PNG despite threat of imprisonment

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The problems of the world are not the problems of Australia.

In any case in regards to this, there's a two sided coin - whilst the HM Australian Government (funded by the Australian taxpayer) shouldn't pay a penny piece towards ANY asylum seekers in my opinion, there ought to be room to allow these people help. So what would I propose? the same that I always propose in these cases;- if you feel so strongly about helping 'gay' asylum seekers, then you should be allowed to accept them into your care and home, pay for them and so on.... you essentially accept them as your personal responsibility.

Personal responsibility - the unique idea that everybody else shouldn't be made to pay for the things you care about.

[GommeInc]

The problems of the world are not the problems of Australia.

In any case in regards to this, there's a two sided coin - whilst the HM Australian Government (funded by the Australian taxpayer) shouldn't pay a penny piece towards ANY asylum seekers in my opinion, there ought to be room to allow these people help. So what would I propose? the same that I always propose in these cases;- if you feel so strongly about helping 'gay' asylum seekers, then you should be allowed to accept them into your care and home, pay for them and so on.... you essentially accept them as your personal responsibility.

Personal responsibility - the unique idea that everybody else shouldn't be made to pay for the things you care about.

Seems like a reasonable idea. If an Australian family or person cares about the well-being of asylum seekers, let them look after them and help them assimilate through that way. The only problem is, if the asylum seeker disappears should it necessarily be the Australian national's fault?

[-:Undertaker:-]

Seems like a reasonable idea. If an Australian family or person cares about the well-being of asylum seekers, let them look after them and help them assimilate through that way. The only problem is, if the asylum seeker disappears should it necessarily be the Australian national's fault?

Of course not as that's a concept alien to common law - although I would say that a payment from the family to the government should be made prior to them being accepted into the country as a sort of 'insurance' cost in that in the event of the asylum seeker going missing, that money would go towards tracking them down and deporting them.

The asylum seekers would have no right under any circumstances to any welfare and would be the financial responsibility of the family - I would also have strict limits on numbers allowed meaning it would at most be in the low thousands. All of this said, I don't personally think many of the do-gooders who are all for letting anybody and everybody in would actually step forward and take the risk themselves.

[GommeInc]

Of course not as that's a concept alien to common law - although I would say that a payment from the family to the government should be made prior to them being accepted into the country as a sort of 'insurance' cost in that in the event of the asylum seeker going missing, that money would go towards tracking them down and deporting them.

The asylum seekers would have no right under any circumstances to any welfare and would be the financial responsibility of the family - I would also have strict limits on numbers allowed meaning it would at most be in the low thousands. All of this said, I don't personally think many of the do-gooders who are all for letting anybody and everybody in would actually step forward and take the risk themselves.

Yeah, they're more idealistic than actually doers. They're more good-idea'rs, than do-gooders. It seems like quite a good scheme, and after a while that asylum seeker could either become a citizen after perhaps working or generally behaving by the law, and all is well. It'll show commitment if they manage to stay and not leave or disappear. But that part of the scheme would need careful planning.