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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    The Mail is one of the only papers worth reading along with the likes of the Telegraph and (as much as I hate to say it, the Guardian). Whilst none of these are perfect - they're a damn sight better in terms of quality of writing than the Daily Star, the Sun and the Daily Mirror.

    Eastern Europeans are bringing with them a crime wave and the Mail is reporting it - something you won't hear from the BBC.
    When you say the Mail isn't perfect, does that include the fact that they are allowed to straight up lie from time to time?
    I agree with you about the Guardian and Telegraph; you won't find much bigotry in them.

    The Mail does not include any "quality", have you ever seen a review in there? It's like they've hired out a year 6 student to throw some words on a page.

    Let's also not forget the whole "protect our kids against porn" etc etc, whilst at the same time having multiple semi-nude models down the side of their website.

    I dunno, I think it's a paper which is past its' sell-by date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardemax View Post
    When you say the Mail isn't perfect, does that include the fact that they are allowed to straight up lie from time to time?
    I agree with you about the Guardian and Telegraph; you won't find much bigotry in them.
    No, in the Guardian you'll just find artices supporting and defending radical Islam/terrorists, supporting the IRA, trashing the military and criticising the Falklands war, articles that support lowering the age of consent to 12 year old children.

    But of course you don't think that because all you're going on is a stereotype of the Daily Mail because you heard the unfunny 'comedian' David Mitchell and friends the insufferable Stephen Fry and Jack Whitehall say it on television.

    Personally I find all of THAT much more bigoted than saying we should control our own borders.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ardemax
    The Mail does not include any "quality", have you ever seen a review in there? It's like they've hired out a year 6 student to throw some words on a page.

    Let's also not forget the whole "protect our kids against porn" etc etc, whilst at the same time having multiple semi-nude models down the side of their website.

    I dunno, I think it's a paper which is past its' sell-by date.
    Who said I agree with the Mail's editoral line? my point is that it contains some of the best journalists in the country therefore can't be written off as a 'joke' paper. Look, the Mail supports our membership of the EU, supports foreign military adventures, supports the Tory Party and many other things that I don't agree with it on....

    ....yet it's far closer to the views of normal British people than say the Guardian newspaper is, and you only have to look at the sales figures for confirmation of that - the Guardian and the trendy 'Independent' are past their sell by dates.

    Seems to me that your just going on stereotype of newspapers than actually talking any facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    No, in the Guardian you'll just find artices supporting and defending radical Islam/terrorists, supporting the IRA, trashing the military and criticising the Falklands war, articles that support lowering the age of consent to 12 year old children.

    But of course you don't think that because all you're going on is a stereotype of the Daily Mail because you heard the unfunny 'comedian' David Mitchell and friends the insufferable Stephen Fry and Jack Whitehall say it on television.

    Personally I find all of THAT much more bigoted than saying we should control our own borders.



    Who said I agree with the Mail's editoral line? my point is that it contains some of the best journalists in the country therefore can't be written off as a 'joke' paper. Look, the Mail supports our membership of the EU, supports foreign military adventures, supports the Tory Party and many other things that I don't agree with it on....

    ....yet it's far closer to the views of normal British people than say the Guardian newspaper is, and you only have to look at the sales figures for confirmation of that - the Guardian and the trendy 'Independent' are past their sell by dates.

    Seems to me that your just going on stereotype of newspapers than actually talking any facts.
    No, no, I agree it's a very popular paper - just with perhaps the older generation.

    I'm not slamming the Mail because of what others have said I'm slamming the Mail because I've read it from time to time and it's is just awful to read. It is quick to judge and the comments are simply disgusting.

    The facts are that the paper used to support Fascism, use constant lies and over-hype a lot of things to try and scare the British people to 'act now' and let's not forget it's policy on 'women', whatever they are.

    There's sometimes a reason why other newspapers won't report on such stories and that's because it's often so far from the truth it's painfully funny. But hey, what can you do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardemax View Post
    No, no, I agree it's a very popular paper - just with perhaps the older generation.

    I'm not slamming the Mail because of what others have said I'm slamming the Mail because I've read it from time to time and it's is just awful to read. It is quick to judge and the comments are simply disgusting.

    The facts are that the paper used to support Fascism, use constant lies and over-hype a lot of things to try and scare the British people to 'act now' and let's not forget it's policy on 'women', whatever they are.

    There's sometimes a reason why other newspapers won't report on such stories and that's because it's often so far from the truth it's painfully funny. But hey, what can you do?
    You mean like the Guardian and Mirror bordered on supporting the Soviet Union?

    Look, I can criticise the Mail too - and I did recently in another thread. But mine is constructive criticism rather than the garbage that you've been fed that it's a 'nasty' paper. What's so nasty about holding the government to account over immigration and the crime problems that result from it? it's doing us a great public service by doing so.

    If you want disgusting just read the comments in the Guardian newspaper.

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