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    What will be achieved if we don't let prisoners vote?

    "Oh no, I best not murder that old granny, otherwise I wouldn't be able to vote for the Tories!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    What will be achieved if we don't let prisoners vote?

    "Oh no, I best not murder that old granny, otherwise I wouldn't be able to vote for the Tories!"
    It's not about what will be acheived by not letting them vote. You're misinterpreting this. It's about how we make decisions as a country. It about the fact that murders have no voice in a community where they have proven they cannot be civilised. Think about if we let all the criminals run the country, what sort of place would it be then?

    As I said, if they can't respect our laws, why should they get a say in how our country is run?


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    We can end up in a situation where someone like Baby P's mother can be out of jail right before the election, and gets to vote, and someone that gets put into jail for something petty, and only goes in for a week, but gets sent down the week before the election, doesn't get to vote.

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    Why would that represent a problem? Should we also free inmates on their birthdays and Christmas just in case the timing is inconvenient for them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    Why would that represent a problem? Should we also free inmates on their birthdays and Christmas just in case the timing is inconvenient for them?
    No, of course not. I'm just saying it's a whole lot more complicated than 'YEAH WE STOP MURDERERS FROM VOTING!', and it's worth noting that not all people in jail are 'not civilised', I just don't think it will have an impact that's all - How many prisoners even vote anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    No, of course not. I'm just saying it's a whole lot more complicated than 'YEAH WE STOP MURDERERS FROM VOTING!', and it's worth noting that not all people in jail are 'not civilised', I just don't think it will have an impact that's all - How many prisoners even vote anyway?
    Why are you sticking up for criminals? It is considered civilised to abide by the law and be a respectable person in the community. Breaking any law worth imprisonment goes against that. How can you say criminals are civilised?


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    aww you two like an old married couple already did you elope or something and not tell us! lolol

    I actually think the proposal there is a sensible one. I don't think we should give prisoners the right to vote as that could make them potentially valuable targets to politicians who'll go stratching their back for votes. I would rather that our justice system judges on the human rights of prisoners by each individual case (even if that means there are a few questionable cases where we think what the hell are these judges smoking) than have our politicians pandering to the criminal element.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inseriousity. View Post
    aww you two like an old married couple already did you elope or something and not tell us! lolol

    I actually think the proposal there is a sensible one. I don't think we should give prisoners the right to vote as that could make them potentially valuable targets to politicians who'll go stratching their back for votes. I would rather that our justice system judges on the human rights of prisoners by each individual case (even if that means there are a few questionable cases where we think what the hell are these judges smoking) than have our politicians pandering to the criminal element.
    We have very different political views, that's all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    We have very different political views, that's all
    Do we? I wouldn't say so. Clearly here we do. But that's because you're so obviously wrong


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    Quote Originally Posted by Charz777 View Post
    Do we? I wouldn't say so. Clearly here we do. But that's because you're so obviously wrong
    You support UKIP, I don't. That's enough difference for me

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