Kerry Smith quits as UKIP Candidate

[AgnesIO]

See, this is why I say waycist waycist all the time because that is exactly what the likes of you parrot. You've now said that he despises people of a certain race or sexuality, yet I see no evidence of this: indeed the phone call was apparently in PRAISE of a gay candidate and talking about getting a Chinese meal. Where is the malice or hatred there? Tell me.

No, I didn't claim his comments were filled with hatred. I was commenting on the fact that you are implying it is FINE for someone to genuinely have those views, as long as they only say them to friends behind a closed door. I am disputing that, how difficult is it for you to understand?

So what is your point? That you are a beacon of virtue, do you want a medal to go with it?

I use slang words like that, especially around mates or in ironic situations. If you don't use words like that then I would say you are highly unusual especially for a lad as usually lads when with friends absolutely rip one another, but don't give me the faked outrage over comments like poofter or chinky - especially when they're not even used with any malice towards anyone.

You honestly say 'lets get a chinky' instead of 'let's get a Chinese'? I don't believe you. You are ignoring my big point; I am not claiming outrage - I don't think he should have made the comments, sure, but my big point is questioning you on whether it is fine for someone to hold these views, as long as they express them behind closed doors. I am questioning you, not Smith.

Although, once again, I cannot help but laugh at anyone who accuses medication of being the reasoning for the comments.

You do use words to rip one another? Then you're just like everyone else. Good.

So again, why are you pretending to be so upset over poofter and chinky? I am really puzzled. :S

Unfortunately, my use of the language is in an entirely different cultural context. I certainly wouldn't want up to someone with brown skin in the UK and consider the term 'monkey' as acceptable.

The point is, Dan, that I am commenting on YOUR post, not Smith. You keep missing that bit.

[-:Undertaker:-]

No, I didn't claim his comments were filled with hatred. I was commenting on the fact that you are implying it is FINE for someone to genuinely have those views, as long as they only say them to friends behind a closed door. I am disputing that, how difficult is it for you to understand?

I have no idea where that has come from, we're discussing whether it is alright or not for someone to use words like that and I said yes it is perfectly fine as well as normal, and more so it is even more fine to use them in private. Not everybody talks or should be made to talk to their friends as though they're delivering a speech in the House of Lords.

You honestly say 'lets get a chinky' instead of 'let's get a Chinese'? I don't believe you. You are ignoring my big point; I am not claiming outrage - I don't think he should have made the comments, sure, but my big point is questioning you on whether it is fine for someone to hold these views, as long as they express them behind closed doors. I am questioning you, not Smith.

Although, once again, I cannot help but laugh at anyone who accuses medication of being the reasoning for the comments.

Um, people can hold and say whatever views they want if you ask me. It's not up to me what views people hold/should be allowed to say. As for what I myself would say, I wouldn't say chinky to describe a chinese meal (but then i'm from a different part of the country) but do use words that are considered far worse. We all use words like this guy did (unless you live in Islington) so let's stop pretending to be outraged over non-issues.

And you keep saying whether it is fine to hold 'these views' (referring to Smith) but what views exactly are you disputing? All he used was slang.

[FlyingJesus]

Using derogatory language about people you don't know is not the same as making fun of your friends using it, which is in itself more poking fun at the negative connotations associated with those words than agreeing with their general use. There is a massive difference between (for example) referring to a black friend who is in on the joke as "the help", and saying it in reference to a member of the public. Context is important