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    Quote Originally Posted by MyChemicalRomance View Post
    Tell that to this guy;



    or (Godwin's Law INCOMINGGGG)



    Extreme examples, I know, but you get the point :L I think it is fair to say if I stood up to a crowd and read a list of terrorist attacks across the world, the majority of people would be shocked at just how regular they are. As I say, my main point is if you let things grows, things do not go well. Nazi Germany and Islamic State being two of the biggest examples.
    To compare Nazi Germany, a country with vast industrial capabilities with technology superior to most, to a relatively small group of extremists who has no major industrial capability and has to steal oil to make money, is ludicrous. As far as I'm aware, they weren't even ignored but it was believed to be a bad decision to declare war any sooner as we didn't have the resources to fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by benzoberzerk View Post
    And this inequity is something we shouldn't feel strongly about because..?
    Because nobody is obliged to feel as strongly about something as you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    To compare Nazi Germany, a country with vast industrial capabilities with technology superior to most, to a relatively small group of extremists who has no major industrial capability and has to steal oil to make money, is ludicrous. As far as I'm aware, they weren't even ignored but it was believed to be a bad decision to declare war any sooner as we didn't have the resources to fight.
    I am not directly comparing the two in the sense you have just described; I am merely pointing out that you shouldn't ignore things just because it isn't affecting you at the time.

    Interestingly, millions of people in this country agree - on the basis they give to charity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    Because nobody is obliged to feel as strongly about something as you do.
    You're not obliged to care about your family and friends either, or to have any morals whatsoever. But to say that it's not selfish is quite delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyChemicalRomance View Post
    I am not directly comparing the two in the sense you have just described; I am merely pointing out that you shouldn't ignore things just because it isn't affecting you at the time.

    Interestingly, millions of people in this country agree - on the basis they give to charity.
    But to a certain extent, Nazi Germany wasn't ignored when it wasn't affecting us. The UK and France declared war on Germany after they invaded Poland, which didn't directly affect us at the time.

    A charity to fight religious extremism? Lmao

    Quote Originally Posted by benzoberzerk View Post
    You're not obliged to care about your family and friends either, or to have any morals whatsoever. But to say that it's not selfish is quite delusional.
    I never said it wasn't selfish. However, there is a big difference with friends/family and randomers in another country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    But to a certain extent, Nazi Germany wasn't ignored when it wasn't affecting us. The UK and France declared war on Germany after they invaded Poland, which didn't directly affect us at the time.

    A charity to fight religious extremism? Lmao



    I never said it wasn't selfish. However, there is a big difference with friends/family and randomers in another country.
    I'm not suggesting a charity for religious extremism. I'm merely pointing out to say people aren't noticing because they it isn't close to home may not actually be true - maybe the media representation of issues is to blame.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    But to a certain extent, Nazi Germany wasn't ignored when it wasn't affecting us. The UK and France declared war on Germany after they invaded Poland, which didn't directly affect us at the time.

    A charity to fight religious extremism? Lmao



    I never said it wasn't selfish. However, there is a big difference with friends/family and randomers in another country.
    I figured it was implied in your posts, as you felt the need to attack me when i mentioned it. Apologies if i was wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyChemicalRomance View Post
    I'm not suggesting a charity for religious extremism. I'm merely pointing out to say people aren't noticing because they it isn't close to home may not actually be true - maybe the media representation of issues is to blame.
    Sorry I thought you were referring to a specific charity, I misread. Most charities donated to are for this country though.

    Quote Originally Posted by benzoberzerk View Post
    I figured it was implied in your posts, as you felt the need to attack me when i mentioned it. Apologies if i was wrong
    No, I was just trying to highlight actions speak louder than words Most people are all for economic (and perhaps even social) equality until they realise it would mean a loss in quality of life for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    Sorry I thought you were referring to a specific charity, I misread. Most charities donated to are for this country though.



    No, I was just trying to highlight actions speak louder than words Most people are all for economic (and perhaps even social) equality until they realise it would mean a loss in quality of life for them.
    Very true. I'd argue that this "quality of life" you speak of is an illusion but we're getting off topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by benzoberzerk View Post
    Very true. I'd argue that this "quality of life" you speak of is an illusion but we're getting off topic
    I won't continue this here, but feel free to VM me if you wish to discuss this further. I'm interested in what you mean

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    As awful and as tragic as this is, I never understand the false compassion that come with issues like this that we should care or act more because something if overseas rather than in our own country or a neighbouring country. The fact is that it is a silly view to take, unless you are an academic or politician who doesn't believe in borders and is a naive internationalist. The sad fact is that it doesn't surprise us because it is in Africa, and it is the way things are done in Africa.

    I do wish stupid multicultural non-nations like Nigeria were finally broken up though, it might bring some peace to some areas of that dark continent.
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