Lord Rose, businessman who supports lower wages for workers, to lead pro-EU campaign

[FlyingJesus]

There is no centre, you either have a minimum wage or you don't. It's ok to admit that you've changed your mind - in fact that's favourable to pretending to support all stances at once and coming up with something that makes no sense to anyone... but cheers for explaining exactly how this story relates to minimum wage laws right after suggesting that it doesn't at all

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There is no centre, you either have a minimum wage or you don't. It's ok to admit that you've changed your mind - in fact that's favourable to pretending to support all stances at once and coming up with something that makes no sense to anyone... but cheers for explaining exactly how this story relates to minimum wage laws right after suggesting that it doesn't at all

Again this story isn't even related - nor is anything I have said - to a legally enforced minimum wage so back to Ashworth you go.

[FlyingJesus]

THE ENTIRE THING IS COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW A GUY DOESN'T WANT ENFORCED MINIMUM WAGES what are you actually smoking you even wrote about it in your owns in your opening post

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THE ENTIRE THING IS COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW A GUY DOESN'T WANT ENFORCED MINIMUM WAGES what are you actually smoking you even wrote about it in your owns in your opening post

he's not talking about a legally enforced minimum wage he's talking about keeping wages at minimum wage levels via unskilled cheap labour.

please read the articles before wasting my time in future. thank you x

[FlyingJesus]

He's very openly saying (or said, since this isn't even something new) that he doesn't want to have increased wages imposed upon businesses, that he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market. You then quoted him saying this, and wrote yourself a continuing paragraph about it. How you can possibly deny it when it's even there in your own words is ludicrous

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He's very openly saying (or said, since this isn't even something new) that he doesn't want to have increased wages imposed upon businesses, that he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market. You then quoted him saying this, and wrote yourself a continuing paragraph about it. How you can possibly deny it when it's even there in your own words is ludicrous

Um no he's not. He's talking very clearly about the effect that unskilled cheap labour has on keeping wages low. Nothing was or is mentioned about a legally enforced minimum wage. Read the ******* article in future and don't waste my time with this nonsense.

Of course you are free to prove me wrong by quoting Lord Rose in the article talking about removing the minimum wage.

[FlyingJesus]

he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market
he wants wages to be set by what people are willing to work for in a free market

And the fact also remains that you hilariously flip-flop on your personal views more often than a lion has sex

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he's talking about keeping wages at minimum wage levels via unskilled cheap labour.

To do that you must scrap minimum wage first.

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@FlyingJesus; no I didn't think you'd be able to. Thank you for trying though.

To do that you must scrap minimum wage first.

No. He's talking about keeping wages at the minimum wage, he's not talking about the legal status of the minimum wage. So for example, say in 2005 the salary average for a cleaner is £6.70ph and that is the minimum wage. With inflation over a period of ten years in order to get people to work in a cleaning job the employer in normal market conditions would be forced to increase the wage to say £8.20ph in order to secure the staff. Lord Rose doesn't like this, and obviously wants to keep the average wage as low as possible (at minimum wage level) hence why he supports mass immigration which does exactly that. In such conditions, you then have British people turning down these jobs (because they are too lowly paid and Britons cannot afford to work for such low levels of pay) whereas single men from Eastern Europe who are willing to sleep 6 to a rented bedroom can easily undercut the British worker.

In normal free market conditions, the wage should be forced up on demand/supply in the British market not forced forever downwards by unlimited foreign labour.

[FlyingJesus]

“I’m a free-market economist; we operate in a free market,” he told Sky News. “If these people want to come here, and work the hours they are prepared to work for the wages they are prepared to work for, then so be it.”

Not saying the specific buzzwords doesn't change what he stands for, **** me you're getting more stupid by the day. And yes people can afford to work low paid jobs, what they can't do is work like that and still keep luxuries beyond what they're earning. I didn't realise you were a socialist now Dan, this is getting more hilarious with every post