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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I want what is best for Britain.
    No, you just want us to be fully independent. That is not the same as wanting "what is best for Britain".

    You seem to be under the deluded idea that when we leave the EU it will be bright and sunny and everything will be amazing and everyone will be employed. No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snr View Post
    No, you just want us to be fully independent. That is not the same as wanting "what is best for Britain".

    You seem to be under the deluded idea that when we leave the EU it will be bright and sunny and everything will be amazing and everyone will be employed. No.
    hence the "blinded by nationalism" comment
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    Quote Originally Posted by snr View Post
    No, you just want us to be fully independent. That is not the same as wanting "what is best for Britain".
    That is correct yes, the British constitution has been framed upon that premise for the last few hundred years that parliament is sovereign and that a government can undo any changes the last government has made. It's credited with avoiding us constant revolutions.

    In addition to this, the end aim of the European project is a stated political union... meaning a single sovereign superstate. That would mean the complete end of British sovereignty and independence so your false choice of partial independence (which is insulting anyway to the abilities of this country to run her own affairs) is exactly that, false. The choice is between a federal European superstate or an independent sovereign British state, which is it? I've made my choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by snr
    You seem to be under the deluded idea that when we leave the EU it will be bright and sunny and everything will be amazing and everyone will be employed. No.
    Not at all, given the poor quality of politicians we have had it is a toss up on what follows afterwards... but I do not see how your lack of confidence and optimism in this country then leads you to the conclusion that we'd be better off run by failed (and unelected) politicians from the Low Countries.
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