AP projects Joe Biden to be elected 46th US President

[FlyingJesus]

You're lying again. There is extreme hard evidence including pleas of guilt from those working for Trump that Russia had a big part to play in things with lots of interaction between them and a large group of Trump's officials. Trump himself may or may not have been involved personally (the report explicitly stated that he is not exonerated but also will not be charged because of his Presidential office, so that remains to be seen) but the claims that were made were largely found to be correct. That is not in any way the same as the President making provably false claims about poll-watchers being barred, votes arriving "illegally", that millions of legal votes shouldn't be counted because they weren't for him, and most of all the ridiculous claim that he won the election. You cannot possibly believe that those are similar courses of action

[-:Undertaker:-]

You're lying again. There is extreme hard evidence including pleas of guilt from those working for Trump that Russia had a big part to play in things with lots of interaction between them and a large group of Trump's officials. Trump himself may or may not have been involved personally (the report explicitly stated that he is not exonerated but also will not be charged because of his Presidential office, so that remains to be seen) but the claims that were made were largely found to be correct. That is not in any way the same as the President making provably false claims about poll-watchers being barred, votes arriving "illegally", that millions of legal votes shouldn't be counted because they weren't for him, and most of all the ridiculous claim that he won the election. You cannot possibly believe that those are similar courses of action

I'm sorry but there is no evidence for Russia's involvement in the election in 2016 anymore than there was for it's involvement in the 2016 EU referendum. It's a complete figment of the liberal imagination. The fact you're still pushing conspiracy theories like that to delegitimise President Trump's 2016 victory just shows the double standards. A friend of mine, on the left/liberal side, was complaining about the President refusing to concede - I said to him, why are you so concerned about democracy now when you tried to cancel 17 million votes and hold another EU referendum? He too cannot see the similarity, but I certainly can and seemingly half of America can. Nicola Sturgeon is another one oblivious to how making people vote again and again looks and comes across.

McConnell: We’ll ‘Have No Lectures’ From Those Who Spent 4 Years ‘Refusing To Accept’ 2016 Election https://t.co/pfy73oWluC pic.twitter.com/N0fmPXWtRP

— Daily Wire (@realDailyWire) November 10, 2020

Seeing this stat quoted a lot. But it seems to me a more important stat is this one, from the same Gallup story. Only 39% of Democrats said the election system of 2016 was fair. https://t.co/dbVNvn4t9N pic.twitter.com/9SiJf1l18x

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) November 10, 2020

A sad state of affairs really, but until both sides start accepting that they lost simply because the other side was more popular and not because of Vladimir Putin, vote stuffing, Cambridge Analytica, Rupert Murdoch, the public being stupid, reptillian mind control waves, 5G and whatever else, this descent into madness will continue. Trump isn't the first by far.

[FlyingJesus]

Right yeah people pleaded guilty to obstructions of justice and got jailed for nothing. At least TRY to know your subject if you're going to make statements about truth. I'm not a fan of either side or what hardcore supporters do and don't believe, but I am a fan of facts