9/11 Conspiracies - What do you think happened? - [Closes 13/05/07]

[Leprachaun--X]

This explains my beleifs

1 hour long though.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...75924179685534

[RedStratocas]

This explains my beleifs

1 hour long though.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...75924179685534

Loose Change is just so wrong. Even the creator said "I would be the first to admit that our film definitely contained errors, it still does contain some dubious claims, and it does come to some conclusions that are not 100% backed up by the facts." They are so completely bias, they only point out facts that support them rather than give both sides. Like with the whole "guy who heard the missle thing". Well Im sure dozens of people actually seeing the plane crash into the Pentagon are more reliable than one guy far away who thinks he heard a missle. But of course they refused to mention that in the movie.

[Mentor]

Loose Change is just so wrong. Even the creator said "I would be the first to admit that our film definitely contained errors, it still does contain some dubious claims, and it does come to some conclusions that are not 100% backed up by the facts." They are so completely bias, they only point out facts that support them rather than give both sides. Like with the whole "guy who heard the missle thing". Well Im sure dozens of people actually seeing the plane crash into the Pentagon are more reliable than one guy far away who thinks he heard a missle. But of course they refused to mention that in the movie.

and there are quite a few of them

"Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the
huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military. 'There was a big boom,' he said. 'Everybody was in shock. I turned
around to the car behind me and yelled "Did you see that?" Nobody could believe it.'"
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ack%2Dusat.htm


"Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south
parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American
Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine."
http://www.troa.org/Magazine/January2002/feature3.asp


"Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 'It was a passenger plane.
I think an American Airways plane,' Mr Campo said. 'I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole
ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/s...0486%2C00.html


"Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. 'There
was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its
wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/s...0486%2C00.html


"Henry Ticknor, intern minister at the Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, Virginia, was driving to church that Tuesday morning when
American Airlines Flight 77 came in fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon. 'There was a puff of white smoke and then a huge billowing
black cloud,' he said."
http://www.uua.org/world/2002/01/feature3a.html


"We were the only people, we think, who saw it live," Dan Creed said. He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near
the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off. "It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was
screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said. "I can still see the plane. I can still see
it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up,"
http://www.ahwatukee.com/afn/communi...s/020906a.html


Gary Bauer former Presidential candidate, "I looked at the woman sitting in the car next to me. She had this startled look on her face. We
were all thinking the same thing. We looked out the front of our windows to try to see the plane, and it wasn�t until a few seconds later that we
realized the jet was coming up behind us on that major highway. And it veered to the right into the Pentagon. The blast literally rocked all of our
cars. It was an incredible moment."
http://www.massnews.com/past_issues/.../1201bauer.htm


Sean Boger, Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief - "I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming
right at us and I just watched it hit the building," Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower chief Sean Boger said. "It exploded. I fell to the
ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building."
http://www.dcmilitary.com/army/penta...s/12049-1.html

Credit for gathering quotes: CatHerder ( http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 )

[RedStratocas]

and there are quite a few of them

Credit for gathering quotes: CatHerder ( http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 )

Nice list.

And Loose Change used some of the earliest articles, like the day after etc, when the least information was known. They said that none of the bodies from the Pennsylvania crash were identified, but that was because they were using an article from the day after. In the weeks later they identified dozens. They were using bad information.

[Mentor]

Nice list.

And Loose Change used some of the earliest articles, like the day after etc, when the least information was known. They said that none of the bodies from the Pennsylvania crash were identified, but that was because they were using an article from the day after. In the weeks later they identified dozens. They were using bad information.

Im guessing its the same with the claims about the gold, since alot of its followers seem to still believe it disappeared, while in reality it was recovered a few months/weeks later after they dug down to the volts through the collapsed building "/

Also im pretty sure all the black box's were recovered, those things are pretty tough. And whered the melted steal come from? to my knowledge no steal melted, the only thing that melted was aluminum of the plane's the building feel because a plane wacked in to the side of it damaging the supports, which was then heated by the fire, which weakens them considerably to the point they couldn't hold the weight and collapsed, after that gravity just did its thing.

You only need a few bombs where the main supports are.

What? That wouldn't be a controlled demolition if they did that. blowing up a support, is not all that different from waking a plane in to the side in bringing the tower down, it wouldn't help it fall down straight.
Go watch a controlled demolition and notice the perfectly timed blow outs on each indervidual floor needed to maintain a vertical collapse in a normal building.

[Dan2nd]

is the date connected ? 9/11 whats the american emergency number ? 911 ..

[Seatherny]

is the date connected ? 9/11 whats the american emergency number ? 911 ..

Lol, I never thought of that.

[Sammeth.]

All those lovers, and even haters, may be pleased to know a new and final cut of Loose Change is coming [Loose Change 3rd Edition] which says will be up to date, and leave out all the incorrect stuffs they previously got wrong. They are trying to make this one the fairest of them all.

Loose Change Final Cut is the third and final release of the documentary, drawing upon our experience and research since the release of Loose Change 2nd Edition.

The Final Cut will be substantially different in content and presentation, but will remain true to the spirit that has put Loose Change where it is today.

We have already interviewed dozens of professionals that both agree and disagree with the official version of events, and we are trying to accomplish the fairest documentary possible.

If all goes according to plan, the film should be complete and released by Spring 2007.

[RedStratocas]

is the date connected ? 9/11 whats the american emergency number ? 911 ..

Just a coincidence. You could find some connection with any date. If it was on 7/11, you could say "a bunch of 7 Elevens are in America, and they're owned by people from India! Who are in the same region as the terrorists! "

All those lovers, and even haters, may be pleased to know a new and final cut of Loose Change is coming [Loose Change 3rd Edition] which says will be up to date, and leave out all the incorrect stuffs they previously got wrong. They are trying to make this one the fairest of them all.

If they leave out all the incorrect and unfair and twisted stuff, itll be 5 minutes long

[Seatherny]

Just a coincidence. You could find some connection with any date. If it was on 7/11, you could say "a bunch of 7 Elevens are in America, and they're owned by people from India! Who are in the same region as the terrorists! "



If they leave out all the incorrect and unfair and twisted stuff, itll be 5 minutes long

I hope you aren't calling Indians terrorists ...