Pointless posting

[Yawn]

ofc 1 or 2 worded posts contribute to a thread if they answer the question :rolleyes:

[Calum0812]

You don't have permission to delete your own mistakes... okay...

So moderators can be trusted with destroying the delegate bond between staff and members but cant edit a usernote lol
@Chris; why u not solve my problems

I imagine it is because in giving us permission to do that, we could delete any usernote, hence allowing us to wipe a user's history

[Kardan]

sigh..

If the PM's didn't happen I'm sure more of it would happen. Clearly people don't like getting these PM's so if they weren't sent, more people would pointless post.



This is what I'm trying to think of now. Some sort of system where you can post one word replies as long as they're on topic unless it is clear that you are doing it just to raise post count and spam the forum. There have been users that have been doing it OTT and their posts have been removed from the forum but of course this is only in drastic cases. Of course, even if I come up with a system, I can't put it into place. Hopefulyl all mods can have a discussion about it sometime soon.



http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...21#post8084021
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...78#post8089778

As I've stated, the first example shouldn't be considered pointless. It relates to the discussion going on in the thread at the time, and if it was considered pointless for being a single word - that is no longer an issue.

The second example, if you claim that post is pointless, you are essentially saying it is equivalent to me posting 'CHEWITS ARE PHYSICALLY IBUPROFEN'. It clearly isn't, the post has a point and fits in with comments that others have made in the thread.

This is why the MOD department is getting flack, because they can't differentiate between these types of posts.

[Aiden]

I imagine it is because in giving us permission to do that, we could delete any usernote, hence allowing us to wipe a user's history

So they don't trust you enough...

btw not targeting u, i still like u lol

[Kardan]

I think one and two word replies don't contribute to the thread and are therefore pointless and worthless posts on a forum where discussion is what it thrives on.

I don't have permissions to do that

Nowhere in the rules does it state that one or two word replies are pointless posting - so you cannot warn people for pointless posting in this case. So in the discussion I'm trying to have here, one/two word posts are irrelevant assuming they make sense with the context of the thread.

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It doesn't happen on this forum because we have the pointless post rule? Most forums have established pointless posting rules to stop the flood of off topic comments and snide remarks, our one is stricter than most and I will hold my hands up and say that (even though i've already said it) but there needs to be some rules to at least hold a structure together?

I'm not trying to defend the rule at current, but I would of thought people understood why their is a pointless posting rule on a forum, with sections to segregate different topics.

So 5 minutes ago you say 'Pointless posting is an issue' and now you say 'It doesn't happen on this forum'.

It's also worth noting that we're not trying to get the rule removed, it just needs to be relaxed.

[Phil]

As I've stated, the first example shouldn't be considered pointless. It relates to the discussion going on in the thread at the time, and if it was considered pointless for being a single word - that is no longer an issue.

The second example, if you claim that post is pointless, you are essentially saying it is equivalent to me posting 'CHEWITS ARE PHYSICALLY IBUPROFEN'. It clearly isn't, the post has a point and fits in with comments that others have made in the thread.

This is why the MOD department is getting flack, because they can't differentiate between these types of posts.

First example: What has 'whoosh' to do with anything?
Second example: Actually sorry you're right, that's more considered off topic rather than pointless.

Sorry for choose two of your own posts but as you asked the question I thought it might be the fairest thing to do just because I didn't want to pick anyone out

[Chris]

Well I can see this has still gone nowhere. I can't change the rules if nobody is going to agree on anything.

As I've stated, the first example shouldn't be considered pointless. It relates to the discussion going on in the thread at the time, and if it was considered pointless for being a single word - that is no longer an issue.

The second example, if you claim that post is pointless, you are essentially saying it is equivalent to me posting 'CHEWITS ARE PHYSICALLY IBUPROFEN'. It clearly isn't, the post has a point and fits in with comments that others have made in the thread.

This is why the MOD department is getting flack, because they can't differentiate between these types of posts.

Both are breaking rule A7 in some form.

[Phil]

It's also worth noting that we're not trying to get the rule removed, it just needs to be relaxed.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that it needs to be relaxed but before we relax it, we need to discover to what sort of extent do we need to relax it.

[Jazz]

So 5 minutes ago you say 'Pointless posting is an issue' and now you say 'It doesn't happen on this forum'.

It's also worth noting that we're not trying to get the rule removed, it just needs to be relaxed.

"If you made an important thread for example and had 205 replies with people saying "my thumb hurts" or "i got my tesco clubcard stuck in the drain" with all 205 replies being completely irrelevant to the thread, that wouldn't annoy you at all? That wouldn't be an issue?" You asked me examples of this kind of situation, that we don't have because of the pointless posting rule, it wasn't to do with current posting problems, it was an example of what could and probably would happen if the P-posting rule was to be scrapped, that was the point.

I know not all of the users said about rule removal but some did (in this thread and spam). It wasn't targeting any user, it was a general observation. I agree completely that the rule needs to be addressed and softened.

[Yawn]

Tbh I think it should only be deemed "pointless" (any post) as long as it's completely irrelevant to the thread at hand.

So posting "Dinner" in the thread about food would be fine.
Tom's post about correcting the thread title would be fine.
Phil's post referring to an ambulance in a thread concerning ambulances would be fine.

But if I posted something like

Chicken

in the "what are you wearing right now" thread, then that would be pointless. Otherwise I think everything else (even "dinner" no matter how broad it is) shouldn't warrant any warning as it is quite clear some people do have stigma attached to them and can get pointless post for anything, that someone else might not.

relax it to this extent NOW RIGHT THIS SECOND