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[Fez]

Im not disputing that avatar shouldnt of won. I dont really care what won to be honest. What i care about though is how he seems to like to voice his opinion too much, and gets sort of personal about it. such as when he called everyone an idiot for pretty much disagreeing with him.
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I guess he's so personal about it because, in his own words, film is his life. He's done more than supervise on a few sets, he's watched and absorbed so much and feels broken when people start attacking film or his involvement in film.

[Accipiter]

or maybe because he has more knowledge / inside knowledge than anyone on this forum about movies.

[dirrty]

or maybe because he has more knowledge / inside knowledge than anyone on this forum about movies.

that's totally irrelevant when it comes to a personal opinion on a film. the majority of this forum who see a film go to see it because they wish to enjoy it. if the film satisfies that aim, then surely its successful? just because someone who proclaims to be in the film industry says otherwise means nothing as it's only his opinion, and he should accept others and not try to push his opinion on others - which he oh so does very often. sure it goes both ways, but everyone in this thread gets that he doesn't like the film. we/i/whoever kind of gathered that with his first few posts, and it's getting quite banal now.

[Black_Apalachi]

I think its how he puts his points across which annoys everyone. I happen to agree that Avatar shouldnt have won Best Picture or Best Direction, however to say that anyone who disagrees with his opnion are idiots is hugely disrespectful. Maybe if he learned to put his points across with a certain manner of decency he would gain a lot more respect from members who would be certainly more willing to listen to what he has to say. You gain respect by being respectful.

I think that may be to do with how he has to repeat himself numerous times because people disregard what he says, especially when it is something pretty rational. or example, he mentioned why he thinks this film doesn't deserve individual awards while everyone else was banging on about how he has no right to say it isn't a good film, even though he was actually talking about specific things such as the director etc.

I was one of those people saying how amazing Avatar was after I saw it but everything people have said to show how it isn't as good as it seemed, is actually perfectly reasonable. For example, Adam pointed out how the story has similarities with both Pocahontas and Dances With Wolves. Now, I don't really remember the former, but I had watched the latter for the second time just a few days prior to watching Avatar so the similarities immediately clicked. And the word 'similarity' is actually an understatement because it is pretty much a carbon copy.

How anyone can deny the *OPINION* that the visual effects are all that this film has going for itself, is hard to understand. Oh wait, I have a reason why, perhaps those people haven't even seen the films in question which it is accused of copying and therefore, by definition, they actually DON'T know what they're talking about.

Oh and I'm actually going to -rep everyone from now on who says 'that is an opinion not a fact' after somebody posts something without even claiming it is a fact. Of course, if anyone would care to refer me to a rule which states how opinions must be conveyed, then please enlighten me.

[Accipiter]

that's totally irrelevant when it comes to a personal opinion on a film. the majority of this forum who see a film go to see it because they wish to enjoy it. if the film satisfies that aim, then surely its successful? just because someone who proclaims to be in the film industry says otherwise means nothing as it's only his opinion, and he should accept others and not try to push his opinion on others - which he oh so does very often. sure it goes both ways, but everyone in this thread gets that he doesn't like the film. we/i/whoever kind of gathered that with his first few posts, and it's getting quite banal now.

I believe we were talking about the directing side?

[Sammeth.]

I think that may be to do with how he has to repeat himself numerous times because people disregard what he says, especially when it is something pretty rational. or example, he mentioned why he thinks this film doesn't deserve individual awards while everyone else was banging on about how he has no right to say it isn't a good film, even though he was actually talking about specific things such as the director etc.

I was one of those people saying how amazing Avatar was after I saw it but everything people have said to show how it isn't as good as it seemed, is actually perfectly reasonable. For example, Adam pointed out how the story has similarities with both Pocahontas and Dances With Wolves. Now, I don't really remember the former, but I had watched the latter for the second time just a few days prior to watching Avatar so the similarities immediately clicked. And the word 'similarity' is actually an understatement because it is pretty much a carbon copy.

How anyone can deny the *OPINION* that the visual effects are all that this film has going for itself, is hard to understand. Oh wait, I have a reason why, perhaps those people haven't even seen the films in question which it is accused of copying and therefore, by definition, they actually DON'T know what they're talking about.

Oh and I'm actually going to -rep everyone from now on who says 'that is an opinion not a fact' after somebody posts something without even claiming it is a fact. Of course, if anyone would care to refer me to a rule which states how opinions must be conveyed, then please enlighten me.

I think you missed my point.

[Black_Apalachi]

I think you missed my point.

Nope, don't think I did. You don't like how he put his point across with the use of 'idiots', but I'm saying it may be because he has to repeat things like a million times and it does get aggravating. It's similar to -:Undertaker:- in his political discussions, only it amazes me how he manges to keep his cool when people keep chatting crap at him all the time.

[Sammeth.]

Nope, don't think I did. You don't like how he put his point across with the use of 'idiots', but I'm saying it may be because he has to repeat things like a million times and it does get aggravating. It's similar to -:Undertaker:- in his political discussions, only it amazes me how he manges to keep his cool when people keep chatting crap at him all the time.

I dont think theres any justification to use derogatory words at people who disagree with your opinion. He doesn't have to keep repeating himself, he chooses too as he misinterprets peoples opinions as personal attacks on his own views from what I can see.

[Misawa]

People do personally attack me, as evident in a plethora of other threads. I stand up for myself the same as I do offline, not hiding behind a computer. What you see is what you get with me, I have nothing to hide behind. People challenge every post I make and don't read what I say properly so they keep repeating themselves, which has me endlessly posting what I have already said. I haven't worked my arse off for years to get where I am so my word on film is to be continously challenged, and more often than not because people simply haven't taken a liking to me. Yet again, proving my point of repeating myself since I already said I am not bitter about Inglourious *******s taking just one award because it was to be expected. I posted in this thread attempting to inform you of how Hollywood award shows work, yet obviously people don't want to listen to someone in the industry who makes an attempt to teach people how the business works. Like I said, anyone who doesn't want to believe what I have said about the awards is naive and doesn't know the business, so rather than having people provide irrelevant disputes to the words of someone living the business. Your ideas of Hollywood seem to be what you see on TV; everyone living in their own bubble of luxurity, paradise, movie magic, glitz and glamour. Well it isn't, it's the most cut-throat, ruthless business on earth. No one else on here puts food on the table by working in film. I'm proud of what I've accomplished and I'm damn good at what I do, I can gurantee you I'm one of the few my age in the world who is in my position, so when I speak about the industry, people listen and show respect, because those who don't won't get any from me.

[kk.]

Just like you posted calling us all idiots, you still havnt learnt, and continue to post that because you are in the business, we all have to respect you.