Forum going down hill?

[Robbie]

Someone's gonna get snoo snoo tonight

I'm on an imaginary do not hire list anyway. And how does CHF do it? Do they write the debates themselves (like HxF did before) or do they just pick out member debates?


Exactly, the ony thing that seems to hold this idea together is the VIP reward, but surely they could give this to people who create the debates, not just a one sentence suggestion as seems to be suggested?

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[GommeInc]

Surely suggesting debates defeats the point? The person(s) suggesting the debates have all the ideas, and the response I got from someone on the matter, is that the "leader" just "Googles", which is a pointless waste of time when the individual member could write it all out because they clearly have some idea of what they are talking about, otherwise they wouldn't suggest it. It also makes each debate unique, not an array of red writing and bold bits, and you can relate to ideas. A leader is like a brick wall, obviously emotionless but has a go at writing a debate idea. Member(s) Debates (forum) only came about because the Official Debates forum turned sour, and people lost interest. The current works fine, they might as well just tweak it with giving rewards out, not seperating and having their own debates.

And I don't get on well with some people, I hate formalities on something that should be informal, it's why I got sacked the last time, I had a voice and used it

EDIT: Just read it Robbie It would be alot less hassle :/

[Immenseman]

Ryan, look how well it works on CHF. I'll give you a link, so much easier: http://www.clubhabboforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=726

The leader gets very involved in the threads. The leader would be picked because (s)he shows a genuine interest in debates. I think it needs someone to oversee them and provoke people and to play devils advocate if needs be. Without having a leader they wouldn't work so well on that site and they wouldn't work so well here. On CHF I don't C+P anything, my original post starting the debate is written by moi.

[GommeInc]

Ryan, look how well it works on CHF. I'll give you a link, so much easier: http://www.clubhabboforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=726

The leader gets very involved in the threads. The leader would be picked because (s)he shows a genuine interest in debates. I think it needs someone to oversee them and provoke people and to play devils advocate if needs be. Without having a leader they wouldn't work so well on that site and they wouldn't work so well here. On CHF I don't C+P anything, my original post starting the debate is written by moi.

I'm not denying it works for CHF, but HxF has a record for not keeping with things for very long - the council, the first time Official Debates came around, Community section of management and staff... It's not in nature of HxF Especially when debates are posted quite often, and can be posted at will in the Members Debate forum, which only came around because the Official Debates never took off, having just official debates might work, but it depends if people are willing to sacrifice debate freedom for a VIP feature, which may or may not work :/

And it seems pretty organised on CHF, it's nearly tempting to join

[Black_Apalachi]

If official debates are to run side by side with normal debates created by users then I think it has the potential to be successful as long as it's not forgotten about as was mentioned. Jake's right about needing somebody specifically allocated to the role because if it's left to General Management it'll be forgotten about sooner or later or there'll be lots of 'sorry this one is late again'.

As for VIP rewards, I'm not so sure about giving them out to debate starters because all that will achieve is people constantly creating as many debates as they can think of, the majority of which will probably be disastrous. The current situation doesn't see new debates very often but at least they're decent topics rather than just any random thing someone thought of to win VIP.

Ultimately I imagine the goal to be frequent good quality topics. For this reason, if someone, or even a team of a few individuals, were set to create at least one debate thread per day, both the quality and quantity aspects can be maintained. The VIP can be awarded to the best contributors within the debates to encourage everyone to take part.

I suggested a team because a single person could quickly run out of ideas or may adopt a style that could put some members off. A team just creates some variance and mixes things up a bit.

[Nixt]

I am looking at changing the debates system as I recognise that perhaps I didn't think through the change as much as I should have and we are going to change it in a way that is more reflective of what members want. Bear with me .

[FlyingJesus]

Oh dear, just seen the Debates Forum announcement. Prepare for a distinct lack of taste when official debates are mentioned. Should go with the other plan and just pick out interesting debates made by members in the members debate forum, and give the creator of said debate the VIP when the debate is in full swing :/ Management Debates just add a needless rift between members and management, and the debates management make are rarely as interesting (seeing as they died for a reason first time round).

Did they not read this thread with the feedback on that idea? Why should they suggest "competitive" debates when they can just post them themselves? Doesn't seem very thought through to be honest :/

I disagree in that you seem to be suggesting that the person who starts the best debate thread will get their thread made official and they get VIP as a reward, which essentially means the person who spams out the most threads will likely get it and there will just be loads of threads that aren't perhaps needed. It's good to have a lot of discussions going and of course I'll never say otherwise on that point but in structured debates it isn't healthy to have 20 going at a time, or it just gets far too messy. If member debates were made into official ones once they've shown potential then I can't see a problem as long as the creator isn't credited automatically just for being the creator, but that needed to be cleared up before a huge mistake was made.

[Immenseman]

http://boardreader.com/sp/Habbox_UK_Forum_19111.html

That's depressing. It's a drastic change from what it was. People can grasp at suggestions for the slump as they please. I don't know the answer. One thing I know it isn't is the "time of the year". This time last year and for the last few years it hasn't been as dead as it is now. I provided the link to boardreader because to be top on an average week for the last 6 months you'd have to be 400+.

Now it's like 100, there have been times when it's been over 1500 (admittedly i'm the only one who has got that) but a few people have passed the 1000+ mark. At the end of the day a forum literally needs only a handful of people who contribute across the whole forum to make it active. CHF has this and it's far more active than HxF (amount of posts and posts per thread). Yet it has a smaller user base.

Oh, how one week makes a difference, http://boardreader.com/sp/Habbox_UK_Forum_19111.html. 100 would now only get you into 5/6th place rather than 1st/2nd :8

[Black_Apalachi]

jake there's bigger issues going on in the world right now

LIKE ANDRE ARSHAVIN

[FlyingJesus]

Beating Liverpool this season is hardly a big issue, the way they're playing The Big Issue ought to be half the squad's new employer next year