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    Quote Originally Posted by Recursion View Post
    Why are people so bothered about their post counts? The only problem I see here is that the quality of posts might suffer, which isn't even an issue since you can just choose to ignore those threads...
    Can choose to ignore porn, gore, racism, and all sorts of other things but we don't reward people for posting those

    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    1) Post count is worthless.
    2) Blame members who religiously post threads in the Spam forum. Many of the threads in there should be in other forums.
    3) Again - post counts are useless - maybe stop obsessing over something so trivial.
    4) They're not "forum games". How absurd.
    5) One would argue obsessing over post counts is a waste of life from both sides - they're not worth anything which is a dig at the pro and anti sides.
    6) Spam isn't being used for its intended purpose (as usual) though forum games could have post count enabled - it is just post count after all.
    It isn't and pretty much never has been an issue of post count, as is said in this thread many many times. It's an issue of people getting rewarded for making pointless posts that are against the rules

    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Also, finally the biggest error in this anti logic - what's the illogical rationale behind there being a boost in "real" threads? Getting rid of a type of thread does not de facto mean an increase in other threads - if anything it will be the opposite, you're suggesting a new demographic of user will appear when this is not true.
    Has anyone actually suggested this

    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Furthermore, you're suggesting the forum become even more miserable and anti-social. These discussions naturally exist in any type of forum.
    They're not discussions (which is the entire point) and they're not social

    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    And that falls into moderator discretion. Clearly due to the history and sheer size of some of the 'post your threads' they have been allowed to stay. Also not to mention different moderators are going to have different opinions on things which is why some stuff will always be inconsistent.
    Yeah the moderator discretion idea is totally stupid, it means that there is no way to know whether your completely legitimate thread might be moved to spam because a certain moderator thinks you're trolling and won't listen to reason. It literally comes down to "shut up we can do what we want"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    So is there anyone that is against post count being enabled everywhere? I don't think I've seen anyone with that opinion yet?
    I am because the entire reason these threads are a problem is because they are pointless posts. Pointless posts should not be rewarded
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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    Because Series EP 1 is a separate topic of discussion. What's the point discussing EP 2 in EP 1? If there is a lot of discussion about whatever series this is then it's perfectly acceptable - if not? Well, it doesn't matter as you can just not read the thread as you're perfectly at liberty to do so. It's not exactly hard to skim read and you do not have to read every topic in the "recent posts" area.

    Also, the reason the Spam forum has no post count is because it's strictly a spam forum. The problem is that the Spam forum is now its own community where users purposely post threads which they known will get attention there. It's blatantly obvious.
    I feel the reasons that people post threads in spam, when they could be posted elsewhere, is because the moderation restrictions in spam are virtually gone. You feel a lot more free to have a conversation with someone without being warned.

    Not sure how the other spam regulars feel about that.

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    Yeah we're not allowed conversations in other threads so why wait for e5 to come along and move it when you can put it there to begin
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    It isn't and pretty much never has been an issue of post count, as is said in this thread many many times. It's an issue of people getting rewarded for making pointless posts that are against the rules
    Rewarded in what way? It seems entirely about post count - seeing as this thread seems to be going on about posts and more specifically about pointless posts. The last time this discussion came up it was discovered these threads do not really boost post count at all unless people literally lived in them, and as double posting rules exist it sort of defeats the way they can work anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
    Has anyone actually suggested this
    Seems to be the desired outcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
    They're not discussions (which is the entire point) and they're not social
    Yet they're not pointless either - also they can be social, but members are refusing to do so. Again, the problem is the members not the topics and as you can't force members to change the way they act unless you really want to see membership drop again.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
    I am because the entire reason these threads are a problem is because they are pointless posts. Pointless posts should not be rewarded
    They're not pointless. What your thinking is the word "useless" or "purposeless". The point behind these threads is blatantly obvious. The point is to post your "thing"...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    I feel the reasons that people post threads in spam, when they could be posted elsewhere, is because the moderation restrictions in spam are virtually gone. You feel a lot more free to have a conversation with someone without being warned.

    Not sure how the other spam regulars feel about that.
    So the problem is with moderation and not the threads? The problem clearly is the rule. Moderators enforce the rule and are the active body - they should be moving threads from Spam to other forums just as they would do with any other threads in other forums.
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    No I'm going by the actual rule on pointless posting
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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post

    They're not pointless. What your thinking is the word "useless" or "purposeless". The point behind these threads is blatantly obvious. The point is to post your "thing"...
    But you're only allowed to post certain 'things', posting your thread for example, is not allowed

    - - - Updated - - -

    Oh and @GommeInc; as established earlier, there isn't a double posting rule in these threads, as they are adding "information". So you can double post all you like.

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    y limit the problem (restrict 3 posts a day) when u could quite as easily eliminate the problem all together by removing post count from the thread

    if ppl believe the posts to be spam then they shouldnt count for anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    Surely the only people that matter are the people that would be impacted by the restrictions, and the moderation team?
    And more people than just shockwave use it which Is precisely my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    And more people than just shockwave use it which Is precisely my point.
    Well I've tagged the 3 people that post in it everyday, is there anyone I'm missing that post more than 3 times per day in the threads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    But you're only allowed to post certain 'things', posting your thread for example, is not allowed

    - - - Updated - - -

    Oh and @GommeInc; as established earlier, there isn't a double posting rule in these threads, as they are adding "information". So you can double post all you like.
    Then re-establish the rule, although as they're not really a problem it would be a waste of time unless moderators enforce a qualitative post check so members add substance e.g. in "Post what you're wearing" - instead of the response "PJs", ask for the response "I'm in my PJs because I am off to bed" or some boring drivel that no one will read anyway, which happens in quite a few other threads already. The Gaming forum has a lot of ignored posts so you could argue they're useless. No one needs to know how excited you are about Assassins Creed Unity. There's a fine line and you could argue ad nauseam about how useless a post is. If anything rep gives them quality and acknowledgement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    Well I've tagged the 3 people that post in it everyday, is there anyone I'm missing that post more than 3 times per day in the threads?
    How many posts are they making a day? If it's less than ten on average each then what a waste of time for a non-problem.

    EDIT:
    Last thing you ate seems to receive about 3 posts a day if you're lucky.
    Post your Setup goes from active to inactive - it's currently the latter.
    Post your Desktop same as above
    Last thing you watched had 13 posts yesterday
    Last thing you listened to had 5 posts yesterday
    Post your music setup is inactive
    Recommend a book - 6 years old and not that active - pfft, no one reads.
    Post a picture of your vehicle - hasn't been posted in for a few days
    What are you wearing at the moment - 2 posts yesterday and 2 post so far today

    I can't help but thing this is all a lot about nothing - some of these threads are ancient and not really spammed in. Last time I did an averages test it was something like 97 posts a day on average, but some of these threads were made when membership and activity was high so it's not reliable, especially when now these threads aren't reach very high numbers (and as it's half-term at the moment it's quite worrying).
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