[Caution] Disturbing Thread

[Mentor]

They won't give information. The U.S. did have information on 9/11 but it wasent from someone in Al-Quida.

They had information from a few sorces, 1 was the one i mentioned. The war on terror is a falisy, Al-qyuda is not an organised hi tech group, its not full of eliete soldures, its ranks are simply a few brainwashed muslims whom think they are serveing there religion by killing themselves for what the belive is the good of there people "/
Brainwashed, willing to die. Torture would be quickly successful. Hence why the information on key members where abouts is know by the minimum number of people possible to stop them being comprised "/

[RedStratocas]

They had information from a few sorces, 1 was the one i mentioned. The war on terror is a falisy, Al-qyuda is not an organised hi tech group, its not full of eliete soldures, its ranks are simply a few brainwashed muslims whom think they are serveing there religion by killing themselves for what the belive is the good of there people "/
Brainwashed, willing to die. Torture would be quickly successful. Hence why the information on key members where abouts is know by the minimum number of people possible to stop them being comprised "/

I would have to know this first hand, there is no proof of arguing this either way since there has only been word-of-mouth news of torture in the middle east. And Gitmo, but that was different.

[Mentor]

I would have to know this first hand, there is no proof of arguing this either way since there has only been word-of-mouth news of torture in the middle east. And Gitmo, but that was different.

Guantanamo isnt where they torture people, for one its a media hotspot the world all likes to stop and focuse one one thing while in realty it goes on behind there backs. Saldi ariabia is one of the common places the US is known to have tortured people for evidance "/

[RedStratocas]

Guantanamo isnt where they torture people, for one its a media hotspot the world all likes to stop and focuse one one thing while in realty it goes on behind there backs. Saldi ariabia is one of the common places the US is known to have tortured people for evidance "/

Im talking about the prisoner scandal. It was there if Im not mistaken.

[Nixt]

Guantanamo isnt where they torture people, "/

True, when claims of the like were made; Bush reiterated his position on how he finds the practice of torture unacceptable, yet, the torture they suffer from there is not direct, I quote once again from 50 Facts That Should Change The World, about Guantanamo:
"More than 600 prisoners were being held without trial, children as young as thirteen among them. Twenty-one detainees were said to have attempted suicide and many more were suffering from depression."
Admittedly, this is not torture as such; but in what way is it humane?

[Mentor]

True, when claims of the like were made; Bush reiterated his position on how he finds the practice of torture unacceptable, yet, the torture they suffer from there is not direct, I quote once again from 50 Facts That Should Change The World, about Guantanamo:
"More than 600 prisoners were being held without trial, children as young as thirteen among them. Twenty-one detainees were said to have attempted suicide and many more were suffering from depression."
Admittedly, this is not torture as such; but in what way is it humane?

well first off im again quantomo bay since its holding people without charge, which is illgal in itself.
BUT this is compleaty irrlivent to the issue of torture "/

[Nixt]

But is it, if you read the quote from the book essentially what you are looking at is some form of psychological torture...

[FlyingJesus]

Guantanomo Bay doesn't need to have trialed prisoners, and they can use torture "legally", seeing as there are no laws there. It's in an area not controlled legally by anyone, which is why it's so useful as a prison for dangerous people.

[Demynx]

That cant be humane. That is sick.

[Nixt]

they can use torture "legally", seeing as there are no laws there.

Nevertheless what they do is far from Humane, Ok it is not necessarily torture, it is what is know as Stress and Duress:
"How would you describe your mental health?"

"I have given up. I am hopeless. I don't care about anything any more."

That is just a snip of an interview with a Guantanamo detainee. What they do there is not actually torture, it is more causing the most severe psychological stress possible, which is very similar to the type of torture used by Developed Intelligence services during interrogation. It is seen as more humane.