British Culture

[-:Undertaker:-]

Thatcher was evil. End of

Explainm how she was evil?

[sim]

Although the war was and is illegal, the partial outcome is not that bad.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Although the war was and is illegal, the partial outcome is not that bad.

Iraq nearly in a civil war, people being killed everyday and a terrorist heaven?

I don't think it could get any worse.

[Bef]

She wanted the rich to be rich and the poor to be poor.

She refused to give people who NEEDED it dole money and she caused millions of people to be unemployed with no hope of a job (and no money to live on whilst they waited for someone who wasnt evil to come into power)

The rich got richer and the poor got poorer.
and come on, you have to be evil to take milk from little kids!
alot of those kids wer extremely poor and that milk did them a lot of good. Ther was no need to take it away. That was just an act of evil.

she destroyed british industry, public services, public housing and the whole concept of society

Half of my family back then worked in the mines so iv got personal reasons to dislike her as she put them all out of work.

No jobs, no money, no power, no dignity and no chance

If maggie had treated a person the way she treated britain then she would have been locked up

Edit: i cant carry on this debate as im off out but maggie was evil. End of.

[-:Undertaker:-]

She wanted the rich to be rich and the poor to be poor.

She refused to give people who NEEDED it dole money and she caused millions of people to be unemployed with no hope of a job (and no money to live on whilst they waited for someone who wasnt evil to come into power)

The rich got richer and the poor got poorer.
and come on, you have to be evil to take milk from little kids!
alot of those kids wer extremely poor and that milk did them a lot of good. Ther was no need to take it away. That was just an act of evil.

she destroyed british industry, public services, public housing and the whole concept of society

Half of my family back then worked in the mines so iv got personal reasons to dislike her as she put them all out of work.

No jobs, no money, no power, no dignity and no chance

If maggie had treated a person the way she treated britain then she would have been locked up

Edit: i cant carry on this debate as im off out but maggie was evil. End of.

Among her first fights: a struggle against Britain's out-of-control trade unions, which had destroyed three governments in succession. Thatcher turned the nation's anti-union feeling into a handsome parliamentary majority and a mandate to restrict union privileges by a series of laws that effectively ended Britain's trade-union problem once and for all. "Who governs Britain?" she famously asked as unions struggled for power. By 1980, everyone knew the answer: Thatcher governs.

Below is what I wrote 1 page back about the mines etc.

"Ok, let me explain why Britains industrial industy died.

Nations like America stopped buying from us because our prices were too high compared to nations like China and India.

You can say "Why didn't she lower the prices?", well that would mean to make a profit we'd have to pay the miners £50 a year because China and India pay their miners etc around that a year.

The industry was dieing, people can't see this because they are blinded by the "OMG THACTHER WAS CRAP AND EVIL" - Which is a load of rubbish.

If you were the USA, would you rather buy 50 blocks of coal for £10 off Britain or would you rather buy 50 blocks of coal from China for £2?"

[sim]

Bef is right about the gap between the rich and poor getting bigger. She could subsidise the coal 'farmers' instead of lowering the prices.

Thats what the fantastic thing we know today as the EU is all about. Farming subsidies (y)

[Concentric2]

Bef is right about the gap between the rich and poor getting bigger. She could subsidise the coal 'farmers' instead of lowering the prices.

Thats what the fantastic thing we know today as the EU is all about. Farming subsidies (y)

Yeeeeeeaa, except we get **** all back in comparison to other EU countries like France relative to the amount we contribute. Margaret Thatcher fought back and got us the Rebate, so that we get part of the difference we loose out on back. Read up about it.

Example. ITV News, it was just after the Tsunami thousands and thousands of people died, and ITV decided to do a special report from Bostcastle. What hapened there? At worst a few people lost their shops and houses, injuries: one broken thumb. The choice was between two floods, one horific, and one not-great, and they chose the mediocre of the two. Then they cut to people who had opinions on the matter [paraphrased] "I think its outrageous that we are sending all this money abroad it should be kept in this country to help those from Boscaslte" I was like soz, those people in the tsnumai were poor, have no assets and alot died, children were orphaned. This is one mistake I think has been made by people of the UK.

It's my view that assets of this nation should be spent first and foremost on our citizens, desite the difference in the magnitude of the problem. Even if we gave everything we had to "help" people in poorer countries we wouldn't be able to solve their problems.

Another example is the Over-hype and coverage of the whole "Find Madeline" fiasco. It's been going on for weeks now, and its one child. The people who tie yellow ribbons to fences arent getting anywhere, alot of the stuff is pointless and not at all practical. Ofcourse its devistating, but there are wars going on, there is famine across many regions of the world, there are natural disasters that affect BILLIONS and we give a hell of a lot of money in aid of finding one girl, who is probably dead, to be blunt. This coverage is all because the parents can afford it, and its a form of elitism, where only the richest survive, and only the richest can afford to find missing daughters.

I agree.

Way to much money gone into that little girl, police are doing everything they can to find her, whats buying a yellow ribbon going to do? :| Lots of normal kids go missing everyday and it doesn't even make the news....

Another thing is we send money out to all these country's that has homeless people and ill people or w.e but England has sick people too, my Dad had to wait well over 6 months to get his back scanned so they could see how bad it was, it was quit painful for him since nothing could be done until he got the scan. what I'm trying to say is that if England had more money and didn't give it to other country's it could build more hospitals and help the homeless here and help the poor family's here!

Charity starts at home I say

I agree even more.

[Virgin Mary]

Ha I lol'd at that because THERE IS BRITISH CULTURE and the British culture is the Political Correctness that has been made up.
To put it simply Political Correctness doesn't exist. To put it in VERY basic terms (meaning I know its not just black and white) its a bunch of racist people who feel they have the right to be racist, so then they make up stories and complain about how "were not allowed to say racist things" etc. its just esculated from nothing. Who in politics has ever said you can't sing Baa baa black sheep? no one! so political correctness is merely a myth.

It's because people are made to feel like you're gonna be chucked behind bars if they dare say "christmas" instead of "winter holidays". Everyone knows if someone wants to satire Jesus Christ then they can, but if some Denmarks draw Mohammed it creates a worldwide protest against the entire west.

[sim]

No because everybody knows if you do insult a religion you will get slated, and thats because TAKING THE MICKY OUT OF OTHER RELIGIONS IS WRONG. Whether that is political correctness or not. You know very well its fair.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Bef is right about the gap between the rich and poor getting bigger. She could subsidise the coal 'farmers' instead of lowering the prices.

Thats what the fantastic thing we know today as the EU is all about. Farming subsidies (y)

That would cost a lot and could harm econmey, maybe she did that but i'm not sure.

EU is a rip off aswell, we lose more than we again from the EU.