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    Quote Originally Posted by Andys View Post
    Err, maybe you should take a look at ExtenHost's website?

    http://www.extenhost.com/exten/index.htm > Services.
    It says they INSTALL the panel for £10, not CREATE the panel.

    Unless they have copyrighted it, then that's a different matter!
    Quote Originally Posted by Scriptz View Post
    Unless it specifically states somewhere in the license that they are required to 'Sharealike' then no he cannot. It is plain and simple. If they modified your panel then yes the panel's still yours, but they are not legally required [unless the license says so] to distribute it with their modifications included.



    Okay...? Usually when dealing with hosts (or infringing sites) it is done via email, although situations may vary.



    Yes, it is your work, but with the new layout that they created you would be in violation of their copyright if you released the version of the panel which they modified without their express written permission. Although it may not seem ethical [because they 'started it' by ripping you off] that's the way the law works (unless your license states that they must sharealike).



    The actual legal document that sets out procedures and digital copyright laws is called the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998). The actual act of requesting action being taken is not called the/a DMCA. As for the names it is generally referred to as a;
    -DMCA Complaint
    -DMCA Takedown Notice
    -DMCA Notice

    Sidenote #1 - Despite any arguments for not releasing their code above, I still do agree with the fact that they should either Cease and Desist or return your copyright to the panel and if you so wish, compensate you in some way.

    Sidenote #2 - Unless you specify otherwise in your license that you released with the panel then you can't control what they really do to the actual panel aside from making sure they keep your copyright. To some degree you can say that if they make money off hosting because they offer your panel then yes, you should get something, but then again, it's a slippery slope once you get started down that road...
    Here is the license that come with it:http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/

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    Ok first of all ExtenHost has NEVER sold a SHOUTcast for £35 We sell unlimted SHOUTcasts for £25. Next the panel we sell was partly made by Nigel Kay (RuneScapeFM) and was sold to Daniel Morris (ExtenHost) for £40. Scripts didnt work and the myqsl was slow. Daniel edited this with scripts from dynamic drive and from ones he had learnt in school. The panel is not "ripped" if anything "Caleb" ripped our panel.
    Last edited by manufantom; 06-02-2008 at 04:08 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manufantom View Post
    Ok first of all ExtenHost has NEVER sold a SHOUTcast for £35 We sell unlimted SHOUTcasts for £25. Next the panel we sell was party made by Nigel Kay (RuneScapeFM) and was sold to Daniel Morris (ExtenHost) for £40. Scripts didnt work and the myqsl was slow. Daniel edited this with scripts from dynamic drive and from ones he had learnt in school. The panel is not "ripped" if anything "Caleb" ripped our panel.
    Actually Caleb released housekeeping before extenhost came into existance. so you can shush, and now we know Nigel sells housekeeping and he used the thinkhabbo one on habboharmony. so yeh. Caleb did not rip the panel so shush. also i have released the panel from extenhost because its not fair your selling it to people who don't know about habboring.com

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    Well we bought a copyright licanse in the USA which is where we are based. We are awaiting your details Mr Caleb we will goto court if need.

    Nigel sells housekeeping and he used the thinkhabbo one on habboharmony
    He MAY do so but like i said only about 2 of the scripts work which was request line and the message system. If you would like us to remove them we can.

    Note: Also we arent actully SELLING the panel. We are selling the installation of OUR panel.
    Last edited by manufantom; 06-02-2008 at 04:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manufantom View Post
    Well we bought a copyright licanse in the USA which is where we are based. We are awaiting your details Mr Caleb we will goto court if need.
    LOL. you don't understand. ExtenHost don't own the panel. and how can you have gotten a license when Caleb already licensed it. gosh go die in a hole
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    He didnt Caleb has been in contact he just copy righted it under the somet or other act we actually PAYED for the lisence
    Thanks TJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by manufantom View Post
    Well we bought a copyright licanse in the USA which is where we are based. We are awaiting your details Mr Caleb we will goto court if need.



    He MAY do so but like i said only about 2 of the scripts work which was request line and the message system. If you would like us to remove them we can.

    Note: Also we arent actully SELLING the panel. We are selling the installation of OUR panel.
    bit pricey just to install php script. and if its just installation why can't extenhost release te panel?

    Quote Originally Posted by manufantom View Post
    He didnt Caleb has been in contact he just copy righted it under the somet or other act we actually PAYED for the lisence
    just cuz he didn't pay for a license doesn't mean yours is any better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by manufantom View Post
    Ok first of all ExtenHost has NEVER sold a SHOUTcast for £35 We sell unlimted SHOUTcasts for £25. Next the panel we sell was partly made by Nigel Kay (RuneScapeFM) and was sold to Daniel Morris (ExtenHost) for £40. Scripts didnt work and the myqsl was slow. Daniel edited this with scripts from dynamic drive and from ones he had learnt in school. The panel is not "ripped" if anything "Caleb" ripped our panel.
    Quote Originally Posted by manufantom View Post
    Well we bought a copyright licanse in the USA which is where we are based. We are awaiting your details Mr Caleb we will goto court if need.



    He MAY do so but like i said only about 2 of the scripts work which was request line and the message system. If you would like us to remove them we can.

    Note: Also we arent actully SELLING the panel. We are selling the installation of OUR panel.
    In the UK it is not required to purchase a copyright license, it doesn't matter if you do or do not, either way is accepted.

    If you are located in the UK, and purchase a copyright in the USA, I do not see how that could matter.

    This product is Housekeeping, and it is my product. Selling it is not allowed and voids the contract signed when you downloaded it.

    If you wish to continue selling installation, you must place on the site that that is what the fee is for, as well as stating that Housekeeping is Copyrighted to Caleb Mingle.

    I have seen this panel and searched the source code thoroughly and found that it is in fact Housekeeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manufantom View Post
    He didnt Caleb has been in contact he just copy righted it under the somet or other act we actually PAYED for the lisence
    Well you didn't pay Caleb for it, The panel your site is selling/ claiming to be your own is coded by Caleb. Buying a licence of an 3rd party person/site doesn't make you the legit owner and you have most likely been conned.

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    Red, saying "go die in a hole" is a bit far isnt it?

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    Surely if the script is hosted and sold on US servers then only US copyright laws apply (which is why you can do whatever you like out in the middle of the ocean as no legislation applies)
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