Moderators need to review rule B11

[Elkaa]

Firstly, none of the Moderators are encouraged to "build up logs". Editing incorrectly does nothing more than get the Moderator in question warned himself.

I will look into this though, and possibley change the wording of the rule to enable clarification and have a word with a few moderators. (If you could PM me specific examples, that'd be great)

[Catzsy]

It's not really a matter of looking over the pointless posting rule, that's fine and under lines that posts must relate to something in the discussion. It's some moderators not knowing that which is a problem.

Agree Gomme - it all comes down to my pet subject 'training' that I have bored people with for years.:eusa_wall

Elkaa, I have no doubt that you don't encourage mod logs but unless the reporting system has changed that's what they are judged on firstly because it is easier to find out this information than whether they have been positive and helpful. You only have to look at the 'How to become a Moderator' to see that the first requirement is to report posts - people tend to forget the rest. Also editing incorrectly does impact on the poster themselves as well as the mod getting warned. NO member likes to see red writing all over their post particularly if it is unjustified. They can get angry or upset about it and why not?

[GommeInc]

Agree Gomme - it all comes down to my pet subject 'training' that I have bored people with for years.:eusa_wall

Someone will listen eventually, it's just a waiting game m'dear

Also, the rule about pointless posting is fine Elkaa, it's the a few moderators that need to be reminded, and perhaps encouraged to loosen up a little.

[Hitman]

I recognise this as a post I myself edited. I've just started my trial, I'm getting used to what I need to edit, infract etc. I'm sorry if it seems like it didn't need editing, I didn't warn or infract the user. I'll bare some of the comments in mind, but in my eyes it was pointless because it wasn't about accents it was a post about suicide in Wales.

[GommeInc]

I recognise this as a post I myself edited. I've just started my trial, I'm getting used to what I need to edit, infract etc. I'm sorry if it seems like it didn't need editing, I didn't warn or infract the user. I'll bare some of the comments in mind, but in my eyes it was pointless because it wasn't about accents it was a post about suicide in Wales.

Which connects to accents, but as you're learning so it doesn't matter It was the only edit I could find at the time so I used that instead.

[Hitman]

The things that connect is somebody said Welsh accents and he posted a post about Welsh suicide, the only connection is Wales, his post wasn't about accents otherwise.

It's like a post in the sport forum, for example:

Post1: England is a great team with some new players.
Post2: I ride horses in England.

It's kinda pointless as the main point of the thread is football or whatever.

But there is that connection otherwise. Thanks for posting this though, helps me improve.

[Orangeesh]

With respect Tweety that's what a moderator is there for - to read and moderate the threads. If you haven't read the thread how can you tell if a comment is not contributing to the thread or is constructive. I think if someone says 'I agree' to a comment its fine but I have seen things like this edited. Obviously Blahblahblah is pointless.

Anyway referring to a previous thread the rules are being looked at so lets wait and see. Above all 'mod log' fever should be looked into. There is a lot more to moderation than editing and infractions/warnings including positively contributing and being helpful to the members. I blaming the mods for this as historically there seems to be more emphasis on the rule breaking side of the work.

Well then the guide has serious issues as it never says to do that. That would then contribute in us looking to build up logs, let along going on to when we are allowed our own time to enjoy the use of the forum. I was really annoyed at someone from management telling me to get a certain number of logs.

I think they forget that we our doing this moderating voluntary with no reward and expect way too much, which is one of the reasons I resigned.
I know you were a moderator once, so you must have some idea of the huge guide they throw at us.
It never said to go into the section you moderate and scan 20 page threads for moderating.
But If you come across something thats worth an edit, then deal with it.
Any other moderating should come from reported posts.

[jesus]

I recognise this as a post I myself edited. I've just started my trial, I'm getting used to what I need to edit, infract etc. I'm sorry if it seems like it didn't need editing, I didn't warn or infract the user. I'll bare some of the comments in mind, but in my eyes it was pointless because it wasn't about accents it was a post about suicide in Wales.

I was about to post this about the new moderators. I was the same when I started, but as moderators settle into their new role this happens less and less. I'm not saying your were wrong to edit the posts because it could trigger posts such as 'omg why go off topic :S' which is pointless in itself.

[Hitman]

OK, so I'll let all that link somehow pass and only edit the ones that are like this:

Post 1: I love Habbo it's cool.
Post 2: lool 123123

As that's very pointless.

[Catzsy]

Well then the guide has serious issues as it never says to do that. That would then contribute in us looking to build up logs, let along going on to when we are allowed our own time to enjoy the use of the forum. I was really annoyed at someone from management telling me to get a certain number of logs.

I think they forget that we our doing this moderating voluntary with no reward and expect way too much, which is one of the reasons I resigned.
I know you were a moderator once, so you must have some idea of the huge guide they throw at us.
It never said to go into the section you moderate and scan 20 page threads for moderating.
But If you come across something thats worth an edit, then deal with it.
Any other moderating should come from reported posts.

Well to me its commonsense to read the whole thread but if you say you were being pressured into getting a certain number of logs then I can see why they are just scanned to get edits. Mod log targets are pretty nonsensical because of the great variation between the forums. Spam would get a great deal more than say teens. Also some mods spend all day on the forum and others manage a few hours a week. Its not a fair way at all INHO. Ostinato and I would bring that up all the time but it doesn't seemed to have changed at all. Target, reports, objectives all sound very good but will never replace proper personal contact by a mod with the forum. Quality beats quantity every time in my book. Sorry to hear you have resigned Tweety.