Virgin destroying the internet.

[Agnostic Bear]

They're the fastest widespread ISP, not the absolute fas6est.

Based on the line speed you get they're the fastest residential UK ISP (I said line speed, note 20mb is fibre to within 1km, not copper )

[N!ck]

Based on the line speed you get they're the fastest residential UK ISP (I said line speed, note 20mb is fibre to within 1km, not copper )

BeThere are a UK residential ISP and offer a service labelled as "up to 24Mbps", which can reach stream/line speeds of around 22.1Mbps. They are not quite as widespread as VM, covering something like only half of exchanges, but i think you'll find 22.1Mbps is faster than 20Mbps. Since Be* use telephoine lines there will be a higher overhead on the download speeds obtained, but it is still a higher download speed than is attainable with VM - during peak times especially. VM also aren't particulary good for upload speed, offering 768Kbps on there 20Mbps downstream package, which isn't even a tenth. I think you'll find that VM also use copper coaxial cable to bring the connection from the street to your house, which contradicts the part where you said " not copper".

Another residential ISP that's faster than VM would be ask4 who offer 25Mbps speeds, but ask4 is extremely limited availability.

[Agnostic Bear]

BeThere are a UK residential ISP and offer a service labelled as "up to 24Mbps", which can reach stream/line speeds of around 22.1Mbps. They are not quite as widespread as VM, covering something like only half of exchanges, but i think you'll find 22.1Mbps is faster than 20Mbps. Since Be* use telephoine lines there will be a higher overhead on the download speeds obtained, but it is still a higher download speed than is attainable with VM - during peak times especially. VM also aren't particulary good for upload speed, offering 768Kbps on there 20Mbps downstream package, which isn't even a tenth. I think you'll find that VM also use copper coaxial cable to bring the connection from the street to your house, which contradicts the part where you said " not copper".

Another residential ISP that's faster than VM would be ask4 who offer 25Mbps speeds, but ask4 is extremely limited availability.

Copper cables :rolleyes: and I said fibre to 1km.

[lScottl]

Virgin is a ******* pile of **** anyway, I know that. You know that. They know that.

[Agnostic Bear]

Virgin is a ******* pile of **** anyway, I know that. You know that. They know that.

No disconnects? I never have to ring customer support for problems (because there are none that I don't cause myself), I never have slow speeds from servers that can server it?

I beg to differ sir:



The reason I'm getting over 3MB/s is because their handling of loads of simultaneous connections is crap.

[N!ck]

Copper cables :rolleyes: and I said fibre to 1km.

I do believe a cable running from the street into your house which is made from copper is actually a copper cable . Also, a 1Km fiber and a 100Km fiber, if working correctly should give the same bandwidth (providing they are of the same type of course). The oly difference would be the latency on the cables - the longer having a higher latency of course but the difference would be so small it would be negligible.

No disconnects? I never have to ring customer support for problems (because there are none that I don't cause myself), I never have slow speeds from servers that can server it?

I beg to differ sir:



The reason I'm getting over 3MB/s is because their handling of loads of simultaneous connections is crap.

Either you are lying or something is not right as there is no way a 20 Mbps connection can provide that speed as those speeds are more than 20Mbps. They are actually almost 30Mbps.

[Agnostic Bear]

I do believe a cable running from the street into your house which is made from copper is actually a copper cable . Also, a 1Km fiber and a 100Km fiber, if working correctly should give the same bandwidth (providing they are of the same type of course). The oly difference would be the latency on the cables - the longer having a higher latency of course but the difference would be so small it would be negligible.



Either you are lying or something is not right as there is no way a 20 Mbps connection can provide that speed as those speeds are more than 20Mbps. They are actually almost 30Mbps.

When you're on Virgin Media using 10 simultaneous connections, you can

[N!ck]

When you're on Virgin Media using 10 simultaneous connections, you can

Lol you do come out with some ****.

[Agnostic Bear]

Lol you do come out with some ****.

Using many simultaneous connections can allow you to get greater speed than your ISP usually allows. How do you think "Download Accelerators" work?

[Technologic]

BeThere are a UK residential ISP and offer a service labelled as "up to 24Mbps", which can reach stream/line speeds of around 22.1Mbps. They are not quite as widespread as VM, covering something like only half of exchanges, but i think you'll find 22.1Mbps is faster than 20Mbps. Since Be* use telephoine lines there will be a higher overhead on the download speeds obtained, but it is still a higher download speed than is attainable with VM - during peak times especially. VM also aren't particulary good for upload speed, offering 768Kbps on there 20Mbps downstream package, which isn't even a tenth. I think you'll find that VM also use copper coaxial cable to bring the connection from the street to your house, which contradicts the part where you said " not copper".

Another residential ISP that's faster than VM would be ask4 who offer 25Mbps speeds, but ask4 is extremely limited availability.

Not for me. We had a nynex box on our house with a optical fibre cable connection and virgin hooked the modem up to that...