[HxHD] Why isnt manager allowed to own room?

[Galaxay]

But the managers who get fired, will most likely take it. I've seen a couple of staffs who go with a fuss and then come back on accounts to spam etc. If habbox can afford to hand out a decent help desk everytime a new manager is in power then so be it, but theres been quite a few recently, with somones departure, then NintendoNews, and the current of which I'm not sure. Seems like managers come and go to frequently.

NintendoNews and Immenseman were joint managers, then Immenseman left to spend his time in the RV Manager, so NintendoNews got left to the department on his own with the asst manager 088! Then nintendonews was fired and 088! given the job.

[GommeInc]

Precisely my point, if they can trust them to be managers their trusted to own the room.. Managers need to be the room owner.

Indeed, because a manager needs to know what's going on around their department, including the tools in which they use. In this case, the HxHD room. A news manager can go rogue and delete all articles, like a help desk owner can close up the room making it inaccessible.

[The Professor]

Precisely my point, if they can trust them to be managers their trusted to own the room.. Managers need to be the room owner.

A manager actually has very few powers, most or their job is decision making (which kinda makes sense ). As a bunch, we aren't really trusted much more than normal staff. I can see why, in some cases it doesn't take too long and cause havoc once you reach manager. But it makes some things, like this, a bit awkward.

Edit @ Gomme: We only have powers of editing/deletion because it can be easily reversed

[---MAD---]

This is actually a very good point. I don't see how the "not trusted" argument can be argued, the competitions manager holds all prizes himself, which atm is circa 2T I believe. I suppose the main argument will be the having to re-design the room when a manager resigns, but that happens so infrequently I can't really see that being argued effectively either.

It'll be interesting to hear official word on it.

This is actually a very good point. I don't see how the "not trusted" argument can be argued, the competitions manager holds all prizes himself, which atm is circa 2T I believe. I suppose the main argument will be the having to re-design the room when a manager resigns, but that happens so infrequently I can't really see that being argued effectively either.

It'll be interesting to hear official word on it.

The whole trust thing was never a reason. The reason is because when a manager gets fired or resigns, theres a problem with letting people know who the new owner is. People might still visit the old room etc.

For example when undertaker owned the rare values room, it got popular and then when he got dismissed, he renamed the room to something else (a competitor to Habbox services) using our publicity. People got confused etc.

With HxHD its even more complicated. If a new manager had to be put into place, rights etc have to be given out by the new manager in the new room. Its far better to let someone own it who we know will be here for at least a year (an (A)GM). Resources is another big factor that comes into play and also time making all these changes every time.

There are pros and cons for each. We feel, at least at the moment, the cons are far greater. Maybe later on the pros will be stronger with new features Habbo introduces room control wise.

Also, in regards to a manager going "rogue" deleting articles/news for example, this can be very easily reversed with a backup whilst it's much more work to find a new room owner, set the room up, let everyone know about the new room, give the staff rights in the new room, give out the new room name/pass to the staff entrances etc.

[Galaxay]

The whole trust thing was never a reason. The reason is because when a manager gets fired or resigns, theres a problem with letting people know who the new owner is. People might still visit the old room etc.

For example when undertaker owned the rare values room, it got popular and then when he got dismissed, he renamed the room to something else (a competitor to Habbox services) using our publicity. People got confused etc.

With HxHD its even more complicated. If a new manager had to be put into place, rights etc have to be given out by the new manager in the new room. Its far better to let someone own it who we know will be here for at least a year (an (A)GM). Resources is another big factor that comes into play and also time making all these changes every time.

There are pros and cons for each. We feel, at least at the moment, the cons are far greater. Maybe later on the pros will be stronger with new features Habbo introduces room control wise.

Could you please make it so Test:tube:baby or any Productions staff dont own the Productions/Talkshow rooms

The competition owner doesnt hold furniture or own the rooms and the radio staff must host their shows in the one individual room owned by a member of higher management?

and as i said jake owning it, hes AGM as far as im aware, so that should be fine?

[Callum.]

Could you please make it so Test:tube:baby or any Productions staff dont own the Productions/Talkshow rooms

The competition owner doesnt hold furniture or own the rooms and the radio staff must host their shows in the one individual room owned by a member of higher management?

and as i said jake owning it, hes AGM as far as im aware, so that should be fine?

That sort of seemed like a sarcastic / trying to be smart post. The help desk is a long time part of habbox, and the new productions is on a test run I think, so it's not as big and as official as HxHD. Test:tube should be able to make rooms, as they're only for shows etc, not for long time use.

[Nain]

You cant move yourself with a script... Yes you can open doors etc "tele nuke" but you cant move yourself, its obvious people are leaking password if people are obtaining access to staff area.

You can move yourself with a script, i know someone (No names) who uses the program and they told me that its arrows and you can move one space with it so you can move yourself into the black space and into the teles as long as your standing next to the tele... if you know what i mean.. if not

basically, you press buttons and it moves you, you need to be standing next to the teleporter to get into it though.

and i really cannot decide weather to like the idea or not lolz.
This is because, nvr is never (LMAO!) on unless its 5am which is pretty useless as noones on then (accept maybe people from another country). so as its a UK helpdesk someone with UK times should own it so they can use the ban & kick feature.

but the problem is, the room DOES need to look rich, which means poor managers cannot make the room unless offered furni by habbox.
But if its like 3T worth of furni or something, and the manager doesnt really want to work for habbox, he just wants the furni (But obviously acts like he does want the job as its an e-world) then he'll probably just rob the furni put it on a clone, say that he got hacked, then, habbox may offer him more furni etc.

if they dont offer him more furni then he'll already have 3T worth of habbox riches.

and also, NOT ALL managers can be trusted.. no offence , there is also another pain with managers that leave, a new manager has to be chosen, then a new room has to be made, which means what? well, no help desk for urm.. lets say 4 days or something, then theres no helping for 4 days. Newbies nightmare!

... help me

good idea though.. i do kinda agree with you there

and also not all of the owners of rooms can be trusted either although im sure everyone would like to be apart of habbox's greatness, apart from that news reporter a few years ago..

[---MAD---]

Could you please make it so Test:tube:baby or any Productions staff dont own the Productions/Talkshow rooms

The competition owner doesnt hold furniture or own the rooms and the radio staff must host their shows in the one individual room owned by a member of higher management?

and as i said jake owning it, hes AGM as far as im aware, so that should be fine?

Those scenarios are completely different. The rooms for shows/radio events are used once and thats it. HxHD is open every day, every hour. The shows/radio events are open at a set time when the show/event is on.

It's a bit like letting the radio manager own the domain to the radio and us having to let people know we have a new radio manager and what the new domain is, people would get confused and lost. The old radio manager could redirect it to another site he/she want to start up and therefore be using our advertisement to redirect to our competition.

Also in regards to the post above, all managers are trusted (I love them all). We wouldn't give manager powers to someone we don't trust obviously .

[GommeInc]

The whole trust thing was never a reason. The reason is because when a manager gets fired or resigns, theres a problem with letting people know who the new owner is. People might still visit the old room etc.

For example when undertaker owned the rare values room, it got popular and then when he got dismissed, he renamed the room to something else (a competitor to Habbox services) using our publicity. People got confused etc.

With HxHD its even more complicated. If a new manager had to be put into place, rights etc have to be given out by the new manager in the new room. Its far better to let someone own it who we know will be here for at least a year (an (A)GM). Resources is another big factor that comes into play and also time making all these changes every time.

There are pros and cons for each. We feel, at least at the moment, the cons are far greater. Maybe later on the pros will be stronger with new features Habbo introduces room control wise.

Also, in regards to a manager going "rogue" deleting articles/news for example, this can be very easily reversed with a backup whilst it's much more work to find a new room owner, set the room up, let everyone know about the new room, give the staff rights in the new room, give out the new room name/pass to the staff entrances etc.

Surely that's just being lazy? If you find a Manager or AGM (effectively the same thing), you tell them to design a room and ask him to message staff about rights etc and the transition is pretty much over, of manager powers. And because nvrspk4 owns the room currently, ask him to rename the room so it informs people of where the help desk is now, and who it is owned by. Don't people search the room name, rather than the room owner anyway? If you change the current room name to something random, and give it a description explaining where the help desk is and if people haven't quite grasped where the new room and who it is owned by, then they're thick.

[Titch]

The whole trust thing was never a reason. The reason is because when a manager gets fired or resigns, theres a problem with letting people know who the new owner is. People might still visit the old room etc.

For example when undertaker owned the rare values room, it got popular and then when he got dismissed, he renamed the room to something else (a competitor to Habbox services) using our publicity. People got confused etc.

With HxHD its even more complicated. If a new manager had to be put into place, rights etc have to be given out by the new manager in the new room. Its far better to let someone own it who we know will be here for at least a year (an (A)GM). Resources is another big factor that comes into play and also time making all these changes every time.

There are pros and cons for each. We feel, at least at the moment, the cons are far greater. Maybe later on the pros will be stronger with new features Habbo introduces room control wise.

Also, in regards to a manager going "rogue" deleting articles/news for example, this can be very easily reversed with a backup whilst it's much more work to find a new room owner, set the room up, let everyone know about the new room, give the staff rights in the new room, give out the new room name/pass to the staff entrances etc.

Habbox is running for UK offical status, but we have a help-desk owned by sum-one who in in the US and comes online at completly diffrent times, yes a GM has to own it then why not jake and to be honest it would get more used, becuase ALOT more people know jake around UK hotel and visit his rooms more. He also is on habbo everyday helping hte fact staff/Manager interacting with habbos.