Jordin Sparks & Chris Brown - No Air

[Eamonn]

I do actually like her, so stop making assumptions, but it is clear to anyone that Chris Brown would only be placed on this track to continue to catch the public's attention.

Her label (who control everything) want the safest options to make the album and single sell, and as the main fans of Jordin are likely to be of the same age as Chris Brown's, it makes sense to get Chris Brown on a track, especially as he gets HUGE radio airplay. Isn't that blatently obvious to you? :S

They wouldn't stick a nobody with her, they want an artist with a huge fanbase to feature to pick up that artist's fans as well.

Obviously they aren't going to get a nobody to feature on the track, what would be the point in that? The thing is you clearly said

it just needed his name to get in the US charts..

which I completely disagree with because it would have made the charts without him as well or even with another artist, it's just Chris was obv. the only other star who fitted the record. Ne-yo, bit old to sing a love song with a seventeen year old, and then all it leaves is all the rappers who hardly fit the theme of the song :rolleyes:

[stickwitu]

They needed him to GUARANTEE doing well in the charts.

They chose him because of his huge airplay and the young audience. How difficult is that for you to understand? It wasn't done purely on the basis of recording the music, it was done by THE LABEL to guarantee sales. They could have easily chosen another R&B singer - Omarion for example, but he doesn't sell as well or have such a large fanbase. He's a male singer, and he's fairly young.

[Eamonn]

They needed him to GUARANTEE doing well in the charts.

They chose him because of his huge airplay and the young audience. How difficult is that for you to understand? It wasn't done purely on the basis of recording the music, it was done by THE LABEL to guarantee sales. They could have easily chosen another R&B singer - Omarion for example, but he doesn't sell as well or have such a large fanbase. He's a male singer, and he's fairly young.

The thing you obviously find difficult to understand is that this girl doesn't need Chris Brown or anyone to make the charts, she has already had two top 15 songs :S and another thing is she can't keep doing duets again and again, so why the hell would she be signed to a big record company if they thought she was going to flop with every song on her own??

[stickwitu]

No, she can do reasonable on her own but adding CHRIS BROWN GUARANTEES THE CHANCES OF DOING WELL?

How many times do I have to repeat myself.

[Eamonn]

No, she can do reasonable on her own but adding CHRIS BROWN GUARANTEES THE CHANCES OF DOING WELL?

How many times do I have to repeat myself.

As far as I was aware, her doing reasonably well on her, was the last thing you were suggesting.

Example;

it just needed his name to get in the US charts..

:rolleyes:

[Glitter]

oooft.
chris brown

[stickwitu]

High up on the charts, yes it did need him. I'm not contradicting myself in any way, you just can't accept the fact that one of your favourite songs was only created to gain success.

That's what all music is about now a days. Very rarely will you find an artist who does NOT care whatsoever about sales. Anyone who is signed to a label has to care, otherwise they'll be dropped.

[Eamonn]

High up on the charts, yes it did need him. I'm not contradicting myself in any way, you just can't accept the fact that one of your favourite songs was only created to gain success.

That's what all music is about now a days. Very rarely will you find an artist who does NOT care whatsoever about sales. Anyone who is signed to a label has to care, otherwise they'll be dropped.

The definiton of contradicting must have changed last time I looked it up then :S

One of my favourite songs? I'm unsure where you got that statement from! I was never doubting the song wasn't created to gain sucess, aren't all songs? Thats the only reason labels release songs is to get payola :rolleyes: and they wouldn't have signed this girl if they didn't think they would get that with her having solo songs, which is the point I was getting at, this girl is capable of solo hits, which you can't seem to accept, hmm.

[stickwitu]

I didn't say she wasn't completely able to create hits on her own, but it's clear that Chris Brown was obviously brought in to guarantee support and high sales.

The EXACT same is done by artists with T-Pain, and hey look at Lil' Mama, she even had both Chris Brown & T-Pain to guarantee a hit. That was done to show she wasn't just a one hit wonder with Lipgloss, and the same can be concluded with this.

Jordin was signed because she won American Idol, so the label don't really have much choice. The winner will be signed no matter what. Of course she'll sell first time round with the first single because it's her debut and the hype will be around her, but since then a new series of AI has just finished so all the hype that was on her has now moved on to the new winner.

[Eamonn]

I didn't say she wasn't completely able to create hits on her own, but it's clear that Chris Brown was obviously brought in to guarantee support and high sales.

The EXACT same is done by artists with T-Pain, and hey look at Lil' Mama, she even had both Chris Brown & T-Pain to guarantee a hit. That was done to show she wasn't just a one hit wonder with Lipgloss, and the same can be concluded with this.

Jordin was signed because she won American Idol, so the label don't really have much choice. The winner will be signed no matter what. Of course she'll sell first time round with the first single because it's her debut and the hype will be around her, but since then a new series of AI has just finished so all the hype that was on her has now moved on to the new winner.

I'm not going to carry on this little arguement you're so content with, but you're contradicting yourself and you're then denying it? You clearly said she needed Chris Brown to get in the charts, how is that not saying she will fail on her own Normally I like a good arguement but when the person I'm argueing with refuses to see that they aren't always right, it's like whats the point let them go all crazy, alex off bb much, poor you!