What can a site log?

[Hypertext]

It would be good if we could log there mac address via PHP, would make banning so much easier

Nope, it'd make Mac address' cheap, if you could use it in PHP, spoofing Mac Addresses would be easy.

Whoever said Proxy, VPN etc. From my knowledge (I may be wrong) you CANNOT withhold an IP address, you CAN spoof/change it, but you CANNOT withhold one. Impossible. So if you read properly.. I stand by my point.

[Dentafrice]

It's easy to use a proxy. IP spoofing is only a one way thing anway, which is why it's usually only used for DoSing.

IP's are always in most cases traceable back to the source.. you always have an original IP when you connect to the internet, no matter how many VPN's/proxies you go through, you still connected from one source...

MAC addresses are a totally different thing.

[craigg.]

People who say its impossible to withold a IP is a load of ********. Lets say I was on a 512kb dialup. It is easy to withold my actual IP. Just because most computer literate people are on broadband with routers and have dynamic IP's doesnt mean the latter do.

If the person is using windows os then you could probably grab the system info. like the shockwave version as someone has said. you could probably grab the directX version too.

I'm just thinking outside the box here: I guess it would be possible to grab a picture of the user if they have a webcam installed. I think shockwave has the ability to view/send webcam screenings.

[Calon]

People who say its impossible to withold a IP is a load of ********. Lets say I was on a 512kb dialup. It is easy to withold my actual IP. Just because most computer literate people are on broadband with routers and have dynamic IP's doesnt mean the latter do.

If the person is using windows os then you could probably grab the system info. like the shockwave version as someone has said. you could probably grab the directX version too.

I'm just thinking outside the box here: I guess it would be possible to grab a picture of the user if they have a webcam installed. I think shockwave has the ability to view/send webcam screenings.

Facebook can take webcam shots. Which is done by shockwave, me thinks.

[Dentafrice]

People who say its impossible to withold a IP is a load of ********. Lets say I was on a 512kb dialup. It is easy to withold my actual IP. Just because most computer literate people are on broadband with routers and have dynamic IP's doesnt mean the latter do.

If the person is using windows os then you could probably grab the system info. like the shockwave version as someone has said. you could probably grab the directX version too.

I'm just thinking outside the box here: I guess it would be possible to grab a picture of the user if they have a webcam installed. I think shockwave has the ability to view/send webcam screenings.

All these things are possible, it just has to be approved, and shockwave has to have access to it.. which it doesn't.

[HabbDance]

browser, pages visited, time visited, ip, etc..

EDIT: my webhost also allows you to see what site they were reffered from if they clicked a link.