Am I in the wrong?

[Excellent2]

Look im enjoying this as much as you are. You make out that im some kind of scrouge but i have to pay for christmas presents myself. I've spent the last year saving for this user system, and now i've finally managed to get the funds to do this - I want to make sure it can still happen.

I'm not enjoying anything? I didn't make out you was scrooge.. I simply said my piece, thats all. You told me your friend is paying for it so whats that all about?

[Source]

Your crying about £5? Guys, people would care if it wasn't the price of a starbucks coffee. Sort it out.

[Tim.]

Jak is paying for it? But why should i be left out of the deposit, when i had to pay for it to get things moving and jak wasnt online

[Excellent2]

Your crying about £5? Guys, people would care if it wasn't the price of a starbucks coffee. Sort it out.

I'm not crying about anything. He's been refunded. In all rights I should have kept it for my labour but ahh well.. never deal with kids as you rightly said matt

[Tim.]

Ok lets just stop. its sorted. all your trying to do is seem to be an 'adult' and you've certainly prooved your not. Cause i dont care about this anymore.

[Excellent2]

Ok lets just stop. its sorted. all your trying to do is seem to be an 'adult' and you've certainly prooved your not. Cause i dont care about this anymore.

My age technically states I'm a young adult.

[Jackboy]

You are both sad.

You charged £5 for PHP coding? That is really sad. You are undercutting all the good coders with your procedural etc.

I have quoted £40 minimum for any user systems I do...

However, Tim you are sad for wanting £5 back when Excellent2 has actually spent time on the work (YOU PAID FOR THE), whether he completed it or not, you paid £5 for the labour, which he provided.

[Awfy]

You keep the deposit no matter what, one of the main reason of taking a deposit is to support your time and expenditures during the planning and arrangement time. If someone is to use your time and effort (no matter how small) then agreed deposit is now ethically the developers.

It is up to the developer to give them a refund but in my eyes not necessary. Unless there was an agreement at the start of the project which clearly stated that the deposit is refundable then sure Luke is in the wrong, otherwise not.

[Excellent2]

You are both sad.

You charged £5 for PHP coding? That is really sad. You are undercutting all the good coders with your procedural etc.

I have quoted £40 minimum for any user systems I do...

However, Tim you are sad for wanting £5 back when Excellent2 has actually spent time on the work (YOU PAID FOR THE), whether he completed it or not, you paid £5 for the labour, which he provided.

I'm not undercutting anybody. He had the choice whether to go to another coder. Thanks for the support though.

You keep the deposit no matter what, one of the main reason of taking a deposit is to support your time and expenditures during the planning and arrangement time. If someone is to use your time and effort (no matter how small) then agreed deposit is now ethically the developers.

It is up to the developer to give them a refund but in my eyes not necessary. Unless there was an agreement at the start of the project which clearly stated that the deposit is refundable then sure Luke is in the wrong, otherwise not.

Ahh I got the whole "I'll wreck your reputation on HxF" lark. Even though my rep isn't that big I certainly wouldn't want to spoil potential work because of a person who doesn't understand what labour costs mean (Tim). Thanks Greg.

[Tim.]

Well to be perfectly honest i didnt say ill 'wreck your reputation' I actualy said well ill just ask the people on habbox, and then 2 minutes later you decided to post it.

Also i understand labour costs to be when someone produces something which you can actualy use without having to pay others to sort it out so its actualy functional?

Look as i said earlier i know long care for this, you can argue, say crap about me, at the end of the day you can tarnish my reputation on here, but to be quite honest i'm not going to hang around on habbox all my life - So go ahead its only £5 but some of us arent loaded and dont have all the cash in the world.