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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    How are their lives endangered?
    These pirates have guns, some are very desperate for money. Who knows what they'll do? They have nothing to lose, but the hostage does. They might decided to kill the hostage if they're fed up of waiting for a ransom. It was on the BBC, some French hostages (in that region) were freed when the French intervened, but one hostage died - the pirate(s) most probably shot him/her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    These pirates have guns, some are very desperate for money. Who knows what they'll do? They have nothing to lose, but the hostage does. They might decided to kill the hostage if they're fed up of waiting for a ransom. It was on the BBC, some French hostages (in that region) were freed when the French intervened, but one hostage died - the pirate(s) most probably shot him/her.
    From what I can gather the French began the killing, before then they hadn't killed anyone?

    I have no sympathy for anyone going in the region, it's so selfish of the French peoples families to ignore warnings from their government and take a small child with them as well. As a result there's been a rescue mission and troops have had to put their lives at risk to rescue them. Selfish *****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Well done. I do know what it's called and I'm sure most people do, what's your point? That's it's immoral? It's immoral to hijack a ship and take people hostage, endangering their lives.
    So if we start being immoral arent we just like them? Pot kettle Black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    From what I can gather the French began the killing, before then they hadn't killed anyone?

    I have no sympathy for anyone going in the region, it's so selfish of the French peoples families to ignore warnings from their government and take a small child with them as well. As a result there's been a rescue mission and troops have had to put their lives at risk to rescue them. Selfish *****.
    I don't know the whole entire story, I skimmed, but the French either attacked first or tried to rescue them and got attacked.

    I agree, it is selfish of them to go there. I agree with the big company boats going but it is their own fault for going. The thing I don't agree with is that negotiations are taking place... a month or so ago some pirates received cash dropped from a plane, there was a few million... this is just going to encourage hijackings. I mean, these pirates, they are probably extremely poor and don't have anything to live for - so if they die trying to get rich then they'll do it. If more aggressive action was taken, such as hits on these pirates, or even simple high pressured water cannons, then it'd send the message to other pirates that hijacking boats wont get you rich. If one gets rich from it, another will try.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corporal View Post
    So if we start being immoral arent we just like them? Pot kettle Black.
    If we're doing it to get back hostages then no. Also, different things are immoral to different people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corporal View Post
    So if we start being immoral arent we just like them? Pot kettle Black.
    Nope, its basically a countries dutie to save its people. If were trying to protect a innoccent civilian then its fine in my opinion.
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    how gutted would they be if they got freed after a year of hostage then got caught by another set of pirates or do they get set free on land?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iHexagonz View Post
    Nope, its basically a countries dutie to save its people. If were trying to protect a innoccent civilian then its fine in my opinion.
    Not when they're outside the country, embassies do their best but there's only so far they can go. If I was arrested for something I didn't do in Thailand and sentenced to life in prison, the SAS wouldn't do a rescue operation to save me.

    Quote Originally Posted by sock View Post
    how gutted would they be if they got freed after a year of hostage then got caught by another set of pirates or do they get set free on land?
    Might well of happened but I doubt it. They're set free on their boat, the pirates simply leave and that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    Not when they're outside the country, embassies do their best but there's only so far they can go. If I was arrested for something I didn't do in Thailand and sentenced to life in prison, the SAS wouldn't do a rescue operation to save me.
    That's totally different, because you were arrested by the law enforcement/government in Thailand, you weren't kidnapped/taken hostage by terrorists or pirates. Your future would be decided by the government, or you'd get deported to the UK for a trial, but with the pirates and hostages it's totally different - the government of that region or the hostages country must get them back, either by negotiating with the pirates or by attacking the pirates.

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