Labour Party Conference 2009

[GommeInc]

any sort of proof that he is a crim?

he's a politician, not an actor.

I'm guessing he was point blank lying to everyone, but did a bad job doing it. So it is like acting in a way, because he's trying to act innocent. But I never saw the broadcast so wouldn't know.

Besides, exaggerating ideas and opinions puts out a broader message, but isn't something you're meant to believe in. Like "Europe is becoming like Nazi Germany." It won't, but the exaggeration puts out food for thought. And criminal may not necessarily mean "stealing things", because you can use the word criminal in different ways like "His choice of clothes is criminal."

I suddenly feel like I am pointing out the obvious :S

[alexxxxx]

I'm guessing he was point blank lying to everyone, but did a bad job doing it. So it is like acting in a way, because he's trying to act innocent. But I never saw the broadcast so wouldn't know.

Besides, exaggerating ideas and opinions puts out a broader message, but isn't something you're meant to believe in. Like "Europe is becoming like Nazi Germany." It won't, but the exaggeration puts out food for thought. And criminal may not necessarily mean "stealing things", because you can use the word criminal in different ways like "His choice of clothes is criminal."

I suddenly feel like I am pointing out the obvious :S

Well I feel that to call someone a 'fraudulent criminal' is a bit libellous if you ask me, nor had he made it obvious that he was referring to his speech.

[Ardemax]

sorry did someone claim gordon brown to be a criminal?

man that's a new one

[Misawa]

Took backpayments and covered it all up. He committed fraud and it's been proven. You should know your politics before discussing it.

[Jordy]

any sort of proof that he is a crim?

he's a politician, not an actor.

He's incredibly corrupted it's ridiculous. He's a very intelligent man I will admit but he's so corrupt that calling him a fraudulent criminal really isn't an exaggeration.

Just look at his first two resignations, and then all the people he meets on his holidays, he meets Stephen Spielberg and bang, he's suddenly against file sharing on the internet and then the whole thing with Oleg Deripaska.

[Bun]

everyone should just go lib dems. labour have no chance cos they lost the sun, and the tories are dirty, sly scum. but hey gordo is well cool, he saved the world man. :8

[alexxxxx]

He's incredibly corrupted it's ridiculous. He's a very intelligent man I will admit but he's so corrupt that calling him a fraudulent criminal really isn't an exaggeration.

Just look at his first two resignations, and then all the people he meets on his holidays, he meets Stephen Spielberg and bang, he's suddenly against file sharing on the internet and then the whole thing with Oleg Deripaska.

Thanks! and to Misawa too. I'm not 'standing up for him.' I personally don't know if he is or not a fraudulent criminal or not. Unfortunately this is the way our politics is going, americanised, with the TV-Debates and dodgy lobbyists giving money to politicians 'so their voice is heard'.

[-:Undertaker:-]

That, and go by the once popular belief that public servants e.g. county councils, MPs and so forth, act like public servants and therefore don't get overpaid :/ £30,000 - £50,000 should be the maximum an MP receives as an income - they are servants afterall, and money could be saved from lowering their wages :/ It is a job meant to be taken up by those who wish to serve, not those who wish to become rich doing sod all :/

Jobs for the boys, as always with Labour.

any sort of proof that he is a crim?

he's a politician, not an actor.

I wouldn't say hes a politician or even an actor, i'd hes bordering on being a clown/liar, infact I am wrong, he is a clown and a liar!.

everyone should just go lib dems. labour have no chance cos they lost the sun, and the tories are dirty, sly scum. but hey gordo is well cool, he saved the world man. :8

..is Conservatism scum because it means you have to work for yourself and your own goals instead of relying on everybody else & the state to do everything for you?.

[GommeInc]

Thanks! and to Misawa too. I'm not 'standing up for him.' I personally don't know if he is or not a fraudulent criminal or not. Unfortunately this is the way our politics is going, americanised, with the TV-Debates and dodgy lobbyists giving money to politicians 'so their voice is heard'.

Urgh, so right. It's like we're converting slowly to American politics. I can't remember what made me think that the other day, but it feels so corny and capitalist money grabbing. The only difference is that our government don't follow through with their plans, while in America they follow through with at least some of the plans.

[Jordy]

Urgh, so right. It's like we're converting slowly to American politics. I can't remember what made me think that the other day, but it feels so corny and capitalist money grabbing. The only difference is that our government don't follow through with their plans, while in America they follow through with at least some of the plans.

American style politics surely isn't that bad, atleast in America people actually care about politics, in the UK no one gives a damn because they're all so boring and similar.