Republic of Ireland prepares to vote (again) on Lisbon Treaty

[lick]

most people said they voted yes because they were told it would get us out of a rescission

[-:Undertaker:-]

most people said they voted yes because they were told it would get us out of a rescission

Propaganda - simple as that. The Nazi Party used it when they were elected as the government of Germany as the Weimar Republic was in a terrible mess. The Irish have been fooled into this, and i'm not going to blame them because when you've lost your job, your mortgage is in danger of collapsing you'll listen to nearly anything for solutions. This time though they've picked the wrong solution.

Do not think this is the end of European Union expansion, with new powers the EU will continue to absord national powers just as they have which is proven by the transformation from a economic partnership/organsiation, to a political, social and economic union.

[Bun]

Propaganda - simple as that. The Nazi Party used it when they were elected as the government of Germany as the Weimar Republic was in a terrible mess. The Irish have been fooled into this, and i'm not going to blame them because when you've lost your job, your mortgage is in danger of collapsing you'll listen to nearly anything for solutions. This time though they've picked the wrong solution.

Do not think this is the end of European Union expansion, with new powers the EU will continue to absord national powers just as they have which is proven by the transformation from a economic partnership/organsiation, to a political, social and economic union.

will you please stop comparing the EU with the Nazis? the EU is democratic and is all for the bests interets of everybody, not just themselves.

[GommeInc]

will you please stop comparing the EU with the Nazis? the EU is democratic and is all for the bests interets of everybody, not just themselves.

People would agree if the EU actually said anything. As far as the world is concerned, the EU doesn't exist - it's just something people vote about and hides in the shadows. If it was a democratic system, it would at least make itself known politically.

That's how I see it at least. Usually when something is a good idea it is made aware, but it seems hidden away causing itself problems which isn't always a good idea.

[-:Undertaker:-]

will you please stop comparing the EU with the Nazis? the EU is democratic and is all for the bests interets of everybody, not just themselves.

..is that why EU officals are paid millions and millions, is that why the EUs' audit books haven't been checked for a decade+ and billions have gone missing?

Oh. and on the final point, its not elected - so it isn't democratic! duh.

[ifuseekamy]

will you please stop comparing the EU with the Nazis? the EU is democratic and is all for the bests interets of everybody, not just themselves.

The EU was founded in Germany by nazis. It is basically what Hitler planned on doing with his European superstate minus killing off ethnic minorities. It cannot be for everybody's best interests because of differing needs and wants of the member states. We lose far more money than is worth through enforced EU taxes. For example the protectionist and argicultural policies mean farmers in third world countries suffer and are unable to trade. The EU works around this by throwing billions of euros at them every year instead of effectively resolving the problem or trying to help.