106-year-old resident loses battle against carehome closure

[Bun]

Yeah I do, especially when China has actually got too much money (yeah thats true, its provinces actually have hundreds of billions in surplus to spend and they don't know how they are going to spend it) and our country is in debt. There was nothing to bridge with China, more to the point China isn't even a superpower yet.

Here we go on the newspaper stories again, if you don't like it post some Guardian stories about how Gordon Brown saved the worlds financial banking system and saved us all at Copenhagen - afterall in his own words he 'saved the world'. Meanwhile, i'd rather stick to the real world and post stories such as this which highlights and prompts debate on how our country spends its money, and even more so prompts debate about care for the elderly.

no, you'll just do anything to have a dig at gordon brown.

[Nixt]

I wouldn't, as its a just cause. There is a difference between giving China £5 million on a visit there and giving £2 million to a nursing home for your own people.

That £2 million would have came from the council's budget though, which is essentially different to money spent by the government... in a sense. That's a considerable sum of money for a council to spend, and if the elderly can be rehoused elsewhere rather than spending such a large sum of money on a care home that does meet the standard of living that is expected for people. Also, £2 million worth of repair to a care home would result in considerable disruption to it's residents. Also a bad idea.

I recognise that it must be quite a blow to the residents. Some will have lived there for quite a while, and it can be quite emotional having to leave your home. Nevertheless, I can't help but feel they are allowing emotion to cloud their judgement in that they refuse to accept what is best for both them, their community and the council. They are clearly stuck in their ways - opposed to change, as most elderly people are.

As for blaming Gordon Brown, you are being ridiculous. It is not his fault, at all. You make him sound like some kind of dictator - "order" the council not to close the home, what a silly proposition :s. Besides, this is now a judicial decision and therefore Gordon Brown can have no influence over it. You are clearly letting your hate for our government and in particular, Mr Brown, influence your opinion on this matter to an extent you are sounding a bit stupid. Seriously, not everything is Gordon Brown's fault and there is only so much he can do. It's rather annoying how you turn every bit of political news into a rant about how awful Gordon Brown is, or how amazing UKIP is. I understand this has been said numerous times before, but it really does take the piss a little. Then again, you do read the Daily Mail...

I do love you though, Dan.

[-:Undertaker:-]

no, you'll just do anything to have a dig at gordon brown.

Yes, because it is wrong the way it works.

That £2 million would have came from the council's budget though, which is essentially different to money spent by the government... in a sense. That's a considerable sum of money for a council to spend, and if the elderly can be rehoused elsewhere rather than spending such a large sum of money on a care home that does meet the standard of living that is expected for people. Also, £2 million worth of repair to a care home would result in considerable disruption to it's residents. Also a bad idea.

I recognise that it must be quite a blow to the residents. Some will have lived there for quite a while, and it can be quite emotional having to leave your home. Nevertheless, I can't help but feel they are allowing emotion to cloud their judgement in that they refuse to accept what is best for both them, their community and the council. They are clearly stuck in their ways - opposed to change, as most elderly people are.

As for blaming Gordon Brown, you are being ridiculous. It is not his fault, at all. You make him sound like some kind of dictator - "order" the council not to close the home, what a silly proposition :s. Besides, this is now a judicial decision and therefore Gordon Brown can have no influence over it. You are clearly letting your hate for our government and in particular, Mr Brown, influence your opinion on this matter to an extent you are sounding a bit stupid. Seriously, not everything is Gordon Brown's fault and there is only so much he can do. It's rather annoying how you turn every bit of political news into a rant about how awful Gordon Brown is, or how amazing UKIP is. I understand this has been said numerous times before, but it really does take the piss a little. Then again, you do read the Daily Mail...

I do love you though, Dan.

Gordon Brown can order every single one of his 352 MPs to vote for what he wants (government policy), so if you class what i'm saying as me calling Gordon Brown a dictator then you will surely be shocked by the existence of government whips within parliament. I do not hate Gordon Brown, nor am I saying this is his fault - yet again words are being put in my mouth.

I have clearly stated that he and his party have got their priorities totally and utterly wrong, that doesn't mean it [this closure] is his fault, that merely means he is wrong the way he has gone about this issue and other issues.

It is rather even more annoying for me the way UKIP gets brought into this every single time, when UKIP have nothing to do with this subject at all. It has been proven time and time again that it is not myself who brings the subject of UKIP up, it is other members and infact, you yourself have just proven me correct yet again.

The Daily Mail, just as UKIP is being brought up again and again and again. However i'm not sure I care, because its evident the other side is running out of things to say when they start attacking what newspaper I may read. From debate to personal attacks, but hey whats changed.

[Smits]

I dont see how this is such a big issue. Buildings close all the time. The only reason this is even being reported is ebcause of her age, which to be honest, is irelevant to the case.

[Black_Apalachi]

What Dan is basically saying is;

money spent on our most senior citizens > money wasted on other countries that are nothing to do with us,

..and I have to say I agree.

[Geraint]

yeah, they closed a care home but they all got moved to a different one. they haven't put them in the jungle or something.

[Black_Apalachi]

They say their lives will be shortened because of the move though, which is actually believable - especially with being moved on a day like today!

[Bun]

Gordon Brown can order every single one of his 352 MPs to vote for what he wants (government policy), so if you class what i'm saying as me calling Gordon Brown a dictator then you will surely be shocked by the existence of government whips within parliament. I do not hate Gordon Brown, nor am I saying this is his fault - yet again words are being put in my mouth.

I have clearly stated that he and his party have got their priorities totally and utterly wrong, that doesn't mean it [this closure] is his fault, that merely means he is wrong the way he has gone about this issue and other issues.

It is rather even more annoying for me the way UKIP gets brought into this every single time, when UKIP have nothing to do with this subject at all. It has been proven time and time again that it is not myself who brings the subject of UKIP up, it is other members and infact, you yourself have just proven me correct yet again.

The Daily Mail, just as UKIP is being brought up again and again and again. However i'm not sure I care, because its evident the other side is running out of things to say when they start attacking what newspaper I may read. From debate to personal attacks, but hey whats changed.

wrong. he can't ORDER them, only bribe them. even on three line whips, an MP who does not tow the party line will not be punished formally. those who do tow the party lines consistently however, may be rewarded with a nice cosey seat in the cabinet.

and regarding saying brown is in the wrong for attacking this problem the wrong way... that's your opinion, not a fact, i don't think you understand the difference between the two?

last line - that's just politics...

[alexxxxx]

council is pretty much split 50:50 tory/labour with 5 lib dems. surely you can't just blame labour..

and 2million is a waste on this..

[GommeInc]

£2,000,000 isn't alot for something that could of had a long-term future :S Loads of you seem to think it's a one off payment to fix the home for a short-term then demolish it, like the payment and improvements were only going to be put in place for as long as the eldest resident of 106 has left in her :/ £2,000,000 isn't alot, more is spent on roads which just get destroyed within a year anyway.

Woah, that care-home is huge! If the home was tiny and the 2 million was going to spent on a building that was small, it would be a waste, but from what Google has produced, and the pictures taken of the home, it wasn't a tiny building :/ Though if there wasn't alot of residents to begin with, then there would be problems. Still, not very useful they were kicking out old people so soon when they could of left it to die with dignity.