Should Cannabis be legalised?

[DrLacero]

This "trying to be cool" thing amuses me. Why do people smoke alone and tell nobody? Why do homeless people smoke it? Are they trying to be the coolest bro at the bus station?

Weed gives a great high, that's why people smoke it.

[Black_Apalachi]

I think it should be legalized because, the young kids only really start because either their friends do it to try and be cool, or because they want to be the rebels them selves.
If it was legal the cool factor would be lost in my opinion.
Also there are scientists who say it is less harmful than alcohol or tobacco.

Why do kids smoke cigarettes then?

[GommeInc]

This "trying to be cool" thing amuses me. Why do people smoke alone and tell nobody? Why do homeless people smoke it? Are they trying to be the coolest bro at the bus station?

Weed gives a great high, that's why people smoke it.

Puts them in a worse position than they were in before. Not only are they homeless, they are now likely to put themselves in a cannabis dependency. Smoking it alone is pretty sad anyway, and further suggests there are underlying problems that need to be looked at :/

[MrPinkPanther]

Sorry to change the topic a little here but a lot of people are saying "Its even worse than Alcohol". Alcohol isn't bad for you, it's fine as long as it's in moderation. It's nothing like Cigarettes where it can permanently damage you even if you just have it every so often. It's only binge drinking that seriously damages your health.

[RedStratocas]

wheres everyone getting this "weed is worse for you than cigarettes" thing? i thought it was a well known fact that there hasnt been a single documented case of someone dying from smoking grass. all those supposed undesirable effects that someone posted dont even come close to making it worse than TENS OF THOUSANDS of people dying from tobacco every year :/ honestly its just illogical to say the two are similar. weed doesnt cause cancer. as a matter of fact its shown signs that it can PREVENT certain types of cancer. it also helps cancer patients, someone i knew smoked cannabis when he was in the hospital going through chemo, says he hated doing it but it made him feel much better and gave him an appetite.

Sorry to change the topic a little here but a lot of people are saying "Its even worse than Alcohol". Alcohol isn't bad for you, it's fine as long as it's in moderation. It's nothing like Cigarettes where it can permanently damage you even if you just have it every so often. It's only binge drinking that seriously damages your health.

you can say that with anything though. technically cheeseburgers arent that terrible for you if you have them in moderation, but obviously people don't usually. and if youre a regular cigarette smoker, depending on the age you quit, your lungs can fully recover.

[FlyingJesus]

"Drugs are for stupid and/or boring people trying to be cool or admitting they have a problem being fun or lively."

Trying to be cool can be negated by the fact that I don't actually go around telling people what I'm on, same as how I don't count my drinks and tell everyone how drunk I am like lots of people seem to do, so that point is void. Also talking on msn you seemed to believe that attempting to enhance a mood means you can't be fun without and therefore must be a boring person, which is entirely false and foolish to suggest. You are of course entitled to an opinion, but ones that can be proved wrong need to be identified as such, and this is one of those.

That's really the only reason people want it to be legalized, the medicinal reasons are non-existent or useless if you do not require them. Like tobacco, it can't be used socially because the drug itself stinks to high heaven which means it cannot be smoked publicly, because it will be treated the same as tobacco, you just get chucked outside because you stink and the general public would not want it, and because it's not popular the chances of it being with the same respect as tobacco where you can smoke it outside in wide open spaces is merely a dream.

I agree that people want it legalised for the "abuse" side of it, and also that it smells, but only the former of these is a valid debate point. The fact that you find the smell of cannabis smoke unappealing is hardly grounds for it to be illegal, and so mention of such doesn't need to be made as this is not a "do you like being around weed smokers" thread. To go ahead with the point of abuse, it's been mentioned by myself and others that the health risks are substantially less than plenty of legal substances, and is not taken nearly so often by the majority of users - it's extremely rare to become addicted to cannabis, certainly compared to alcohol and more so tobacco, and obviously less intake means less ill effects in any case.
Tackling that final point of yours in this chunk of quote, I don't think anyone would really care if they have to smoke it in their own homes, as that's obviously where people smoke it now anyway rather than lighting up a spliff down the local.

I see, so you would rather discuss two things which are illegal? Making no comparisons to anything that is considered legal? You've got to discuss legal comparisons to gain a greater understanding of the legal world, comparing just one side is a waste of time and unproductive :/

You'd already mentioned tobacco and alcohol as legal comparatives, there would have been no point whatsoever in me repeating what you said.

No, you just cannot read It's kinda obvious my point falls on the belief that new drugs should not be introduced, when the legal ones are terrible anyway:

:-Cannabis stinks, at least alcohol is scentless - Kinda obvious that I'm saying alcohol isn't any better than cannabis
:-We do not want another pointless drug that has no real purpose in the real world to the masses :/ - Another being a keyword here, another reflecting on legal drugs that cause alot of problems.
:-Just as bad, if not worse, than someone who has recently smoked tobacco - It's obvious tobacco isn't seen as amazing either.

That doesn't make it look like I can't read at all - like I said, your reasoning is that cannabis in your opinion smells bad. The idea that people don't want "another pointless drug" is clearly not true as proved by public sentiment. Further, if you read my original post in this thread you'd see some logical reasoning (if you remember what logic is at any point) as to how the legalisation and regulation of cannabis could improve public economy (as opposed to personal economy of drug dealers, whom I would guess you aren't a fan of) and also decrease the number of users over time. If you can bring something to the table that isn't simply your opinion on drugs and people who take them, I'd find that a far more useful debate post.

Puts them in a worse position than they were in before. Not only are they homeless, they are now likely to put themselves in a cannabis dependency. Smoking it alone is pretty sad anyway, and further suggests there are underlying problems that need to be looked at :/

As keeps being repeated, dependancy on cannabis is extremely rare (and not to mention extremely expensive to set up, given the amount one would need to smoke regularly to inflict it upon oneself). I agree that smoking it alone may suggest personal problems if a person cannot wind down without the aid of it, but surely then it can be classed as that fabled medical requirement which you've said hardly exists?

[Technologic]

No because then the country would really go to pot.

[Sharon]

Legalise it as so many people are doing it now theres no point in it being illegal

[Tash.]

No because then the country would really go to pot.

Ha nice

Legalise it as so many people are doing it now theres no point in it being illegal

That sort of analogy gets you nowhere. It's like saying, so many people are carrying knives these days, let's just make it legal, there's no point in it being illegal. It just wouldn't happen. Smoking cannabis is detrimental to your health and therefore it should not be legal.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I would say no, Cannabies seems to lead people off the rails whereas Tobacco doesn't although I suppose alcohol does. On the 'cool factor' I think people need to get into the real world, kids don't smoke cannabies because 'i'll look cool doing something illegal' - most will try it because they are curious about it, or see their mates doing it and enjoying it.