Bring out the clowns! - EU wastes millions on circus skills and hip hop

[Invent]

Then why not let you all pay for it and let me and the 'minority' keep ours - that way you can get to watch your circus acts/clowns and we can spend our money on something a little more useful. You're local circus must be minted with the likes of you around;- i'm sure you donate on the side as well yeah because its such a great cause?

If you were the minority why should the majority have no opinion on the matter and have to make their own individual effort to donate to the cause(s)? That's ridiculous. But anyway, it doesn't really matter as the money is (being) spent and I at least support it so I'm happy .

[-:Undertaker:-]

If you were the minority why should the majority have no opinion on the matter and have to make their own individual effort to donate to the cause(s)? That's ridiculous. But anyway, it doesn't really matter as the money is (being) spent and I at least support it so I'm happy .

Because the fact is that the majority do not want their money spent on a circus and its clowns.

[alexxxxx]

Nothing to say on EU waste alex?

Then again you have said in the past you believe most of the British people actually want a federal Europe so i'm not suprised.

i don't consider these grants waste.

plus im saying you must be a troll calling yourself part of a a 'silent majority,' what a load of rubbish. you are in no way silent. nor are people with similar beliefs to yourself.

[-:Undertaker:-]

i don't consider these grants waste.

plus im saying you must be a troll calling yourself part of a a 'silent majority,' what a load of rubbish. you are in no way silent. nor are people with similar beliefs to yourself.

Oh dont you, are you also an avid circus fan? - nobody I know or have ever met is an avid circus fan so would you like to tell me why they should be forced to pay by an unelected body to fund a circus despite the fact that they have no/little interest in the circus?

I am the silent majority, the silent majority rarely ever protests (me the same) and so forth. The left and the extreme right is the only type which makes the nosie, you have the UAF on the streets and the EDL on the streets - middle england rarely gets involved, infact maybe that is why middle england rarely bothers to vote anymore.

[alexxxxx]

Oh dont you, are you also an avid circus fan? - nobody I know or have ever met is an avid circus fan so would you like to tell me why they should be forced to pay by an unelected body to fund a circus despite the fact that they have no/little interest in the circus?

I am the silent majority, the silent majority rarely ever protests (me the same) and so forth. The left and the extreme right is the only type which makes the nosie, you have the UAF on the streets and the EDL on the streets - middle england rarely gets involved, infact maybe that is why middle england rarely bothers to vote anymore.

i like hip hop dance yeah. silent majority!? you lot spam the internet, newspapers and radio with half truths, scaremongering, social conservatism and thelike. the next time i hear 'it's pc gone mad' i'm going to scream.

[-:Undertaker:-]

i like hip hop dance yeah. silent majority!? you lot spam the internet, newspapers and radio with half truths, scaremongering, social conservatism and thelike. the next time i hear 'it's pc gone mad' i'm going to scream.

If you like hip hop dance then why should people pay for you, why not pay for yourself?

As for the right, yes we are fed up and if you havent noticed England is right wing and is also fed up. There is no scaremongering, there is no half truths (the full truth isnt even out there) and PC has gone mad. In a world where children are banned from running on the playground and old women are prevented from planting flowers in their local village because of health and safety do you not clearly see how PC has gone mad?

[alexxxxx]

If you like hip hop dance then why should people pay for you, why not pay for yourself?

I have. the fact is that you will never appreciate anything that cannot be measured in profit. which is very sad. you must live a very shallow and sad life.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I have. the fact is that you will never appreciate anything that cannot be measured in profit. which is very sad. you must live a very shallow and sad life.

No its realistic. Something which makes a profit is something which is desired and therefore something which works. If you removed the high taxes more things would be able to survive on their own because people would have more money and thus would be able to make their own individual choice. If you want to attend hip hop or riding bikes through hoops of fire then thats fine by me just aslong as you dont expect me to pick up the bill when I could be spending my own money on myself on something I find useful/interesting to me.

Thats freedom.

[alexxxxx]

Thats freedom.

true freedom is free movement of goods, people and equal rights. something you don't quite believe in.

[-:Undertaker:-]

true freedom is free movement of goods, people and equal rights. something you don't quite believe in.

I do believe in all of them;

- The movement of goods provided it does not harm my country and my people.
- The movement of people provided it does not harm my country and my people.
- Equal rights, not rights in favour of somebody because of the colour of their skin/sexuality/gender.

That is freedom, do not preach to me about freedom. As a europhile you are one of the last people on earth who could preach about democracy and freedom to me. Freedom is to elect and make your own laws, not have them dictated to you by a foreign unelected organisation - something the people of Eastern Europe learned a very long time ago. You make it out as though freedom will only appear with the creation of a federal superstate - wrong. We had freedom until the European Union was created and decided to bypass not only national parliaments but also its own puppet parliament by using directives more and more.