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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    This is the kind of thing Geert Wilders is up against, he is not playing the race card but is merely critcising a powerful and influential book which he believes is incompatible with western democracy and values.
    But that could be said about a lot of religions and their religious teaching not just the Koran - he has singled out this particular faith. The koran is powerful as is the bible but as I said before only a minority will use it as an excuse for terrorism. He may think it's incompatible but that's the way of the world it evolves and you can't stop it changing. People have been trying to since the crusades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catzsy View Post
    But that could be said about a lot of religions and their religious teaching not just the Koran - he has singled out this particular faith. The koran is powerful as is the bible but as I said before only a minority will use it as an excuse for terrorism. He may think it's incompatible but that's the way of the world it evolves and you can't stop it changing. People have been trying to since the crusades.
    He has singled out islam because we are fighting islamic extremism and islam is a fast growing religion which is causing major shockwaves within Europe and the United Kingdom with the appearance of radicals and the 'islamification' of local communities. That is why he has singled that out, not to mention the fact that western culture and values are built on christianity so why would he be against christianity, especially when radical christianity poses no threat in this part of the world anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    He has singled out islam because we are fighting islamic extremism and islam is a fast growing religion which is causing major shockwaves within Europe and the United Kingdom with the appearance of radicals and the 'islamification' of local communities. That is why he has singled that out, not to mention the fact that western culture and values are built on christianity so why would he be against christianity, especially when radical christianity poses no threat in this part of the world anymore.
    Well that is not islamic extremism is it? That is immigration and cultural change. He has a right to his point of view of course but he cannot expect everybody to hold up their arms and praise him. People of all races congregate in the same place quite often, Brits in spain, Jews in Golders Green, Chinese in Soho, Greeks in Palmers Green and Wood Green in North London etc etc. They all enjoy their own places to worship and have their own unique culture. Tell me then why normal muslims are therefore villified for doing the same? Why is he asking for no more mosques to be built - why doesn't he ban further building of all religious buildings?

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    Catzy and -:Undertaker:- this debate you two are having is quite interesting


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    This inncident has said to have been from Chechens who have been funded from exterior terrorist groups etc. that's where all the weapons come from. This actually does come as quite a shocker, as any form of violence in Moscow did die down- with the last being 6 years ago. It is said that Chechen rebel leader Doku Umarov was the one who gave out orders.

    I actually feel this attack was a wake up call and was to show Moscow that the Chechens were still there and should not be forgoten as they are capable of comitting such atrocities.
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    The death toll is now up to 40. Just thought I'd let you know


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    Quote Originally Posted by StalinJoseph View Post
    The death toll is now up to 40. Just thought I'd let you know
    Phew this is so sad. Such a needless and terrible waste of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catzsy View Post
    Phew this is so sad. Such a needless and terrible waste of life.
    It makes me realize how lucky I am to live in Canada, where I don't have to worry about terrorism.
    I'm not crazy, ask my toaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotelUser View Post
    It makes me realize how lucky I am to live in Canada, where I don't have to worry about terrorism.
    Well they have found terrorist cells there in the past but they seem to be pretty good at arresting them before anything has happened.

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