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    print_r

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recursion View Post
    No one said it was for a small group of people. You shouldn't just be a complete ass and stop IE users from viewing your site, it is the most used browser in the world :|
    And it's the worst, undisputed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotelUser View Post
    And it's the worst, undisputed.
    That's an opinion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Recursion View Post
    No one said it was for a small group of people. You shouldn't just be a complete ass and stop IE users from viewing your site, it is the most used browser in the world :|
    Ignore them, people seem to think bashing Internet Explorer makes them look cool. It's bad but lets not exaggerate, its not that bad. It works in the vast majority of cases and Explorer 9 looks nice and this is coming from someone on a MacBook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewish Bear View Post
    That's an opinion.
    Internet explorer:
    - Can't speak Javascript (because most every page complains about a JS error when there's none)
    - Hates CSS with a passion and lacks common features of css everyone else uses
    - changes the capitalization and quotations within source
    - renders horribly slow
    - has a god awful caching system
    - Doesn't let us use cross domain calls through frames!
    - It doesn't know what security is

    It's not my opinion, it's a fact, and if you, a developer, who should have experienced having to tailor specific versions of your scripts to work on internet explorer, says otherwise, then I can't say you're much of a web developer, unless you know an incredibly good toolkit.

    Oh, and just to prove my point, that Internet explorer is that uncooperative kid brother everyone hates:
    HTML Code:
    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
    <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-GB" lang="en-GB">
    <head profile="http://dublincore.org/documents/dcq-html/">
    <meta name="dcterms.created" content="2010-06-10T12:01:34Z" />
    <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" />
    <meta name="description" content="Breaking news, sport, TV, radio and a whole lot more. The BBC informs, educates and entertains - wherever you are, whatever your age." />
    <meta name="keywords" content="BBC, bbc.co.uk, bbc.com, Search, British Broadcasting Corporation, BBC iPlayer, BBCi" />
    <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=EmulateIE7" />
    <meta name="robots" content="noodp" />
    <link rel="apple-touch-icon" href="http://static.bbc.co.uk/homepage/img/iphone.png"/>
    <title>BBC - Homepage</title>
    <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://static.bbc.co.uk/homepage/css/bundles/international/main.css?3" media="screen,print" />
    <!--[if IE 6]><link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://static.bbc.co.uk/homepage/css/bundles/international/ie6.css?3" media="screen,print" />
    <![endif]--><!--[if IE 7]><link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://static.bbc.co.uk/homepage/css/bundles/international/ie7.css?3" media="screen,print" />
    <![endif]--><!--[if IE 8]><link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://static.bbc.co.uk/homepage/css/bundles/international/ie8.css?3" media="screen,print" />
    <![endif]--><!--[if gt IE 8]><link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://static.bbc.co.uk/homepage/css/bundles/international/gt-ie8.css?3" media="screen,print" />
    <![endif]-->    <link rel="schema.dcterms" href="http://purl.org/dc/terms/" /> <link rel="index" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/a-z/" title="A to Z" /> <link rel="help" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/help/" title="BBC Help" /> <link rel="copyright" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/terms/" title="Terms of Use" /> <link rel="icon" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon" /> <meta name="viewport" content="width = 974" />          <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://static.bbc.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/1.1.6/newnav/style/main.css"  />
                <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://static.bbc.co.uk/bbcdotcom/0.3.9/style/3pt_ads.css"  />
           <script type="text/javascript" src="http://node1.bbcimg.co.uk/glow/gloader.0.1.3.js"> gloader.use("glow", {map: "http://node1.bbcimg.co.uk/glow/glow/map.1.7.2.js"}); </script>     <script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.bbc.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/1.1.6/newnav/script/blq_core.js"></script>
      <!--[if (IE 6)|(IE 7)]>
    Not only did BBC have to use different CSS and javascript for Internet Explorer, they had to use different sheets for different VERSIONS of Internet Explorer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewish Bear View Post
    That's an opinion.
    It really isn't. Sure other browsers aren't perfect in every scenario, but the shear amount of made up IE standards amazes me, meaning a developer must cater for standard compliant browsers, and then IE. It also lags behinds all the other browsers in terms of evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recursion View Post
    No one said it was for a small group of people. You shouldn't just be a complete ass and stop IE users from viewing your site, it is the most used browser in the world :|
    Most used browser in the world?

    http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

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    Well then you've lost over 60% of your users!



    That's not a thing you should be wanting! heck- you want as many as possible!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pieman View Post
    Those statistics are for the W3Schools.com website alone, which, be realistic, only people interested in coding/technology are going to be going to, and those people are likely to be using a third party browser.

    W3Schools is a website for people with an interest for web technologies. These people are more interested in using alternative browsers than the average user. The average user tends to use Internet Explorer, since it comes preinstalled with Windows. Most do not seek out other browsers.

    These facts indicate that the browser figures above are not 100% realistic. Other web sites have statistics showing that Internet Explorer is used by at least 80% of the users.

    Anyway, our data, collected from W3Schools' log-files, over a five year period, clearly shows the long and medium-term trends.
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    Firefox >>> Chrome.
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